Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Chatting and General Stuff > General Discussion

General Discussion Must wear red or OD green socks to participate. I can't see your socks, please be honest.


Reply

moa's to mil's (conversion)

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-10-2005, 04:38 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: WV
Posts: 166
moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

i need to know how to convert moa's to mils'
if my train of thought is right 1 mil (36's @1000) would be 3+ moa...? but i would like to know exactly how much and be able to convert it at 1,2,3,4,500yds etc...
i have a scope that has hold over dots 3moa apart .. so how close to 1 mil would that be? and would that be close enough to use as a rangefinder to 1000yds on top of a 7mm rem mag?
Brien
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-10-2005, 05:09 PM
CAM CAM is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Utah
Posts: 390
Re: moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

BTM
Why would you want to convert MOA to MILS?
Just use MOA
1 MOA @ 100 yards = 1.047 inches
1 MOA @ 1000 yards = 10.47 inches

Most people are not good at ranging with a retcile and the longer the distance the worse off you are.

It can be done and you should learn how just in case your rangefinder dies, But get a range finder and be happy "push button get range" no math no mistakes no BS.

CAM
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-10-2005, 05:35 PM
CAM CAM is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Utah
Posts: 390
Re: moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

BTM
here is an example and why I don't think it will work for you out to 1000 yards.

Big Buck 19" from belly to back
With 3MOA between lines

When the Bucks belly and back was 6MOA (2 lines) he would be 300 yards away.

When the bucks belly and back was 3MOA ( one line)he would be 600 yards away!

When you guess at 1.5MOA (1/2 your setup) he would be 1200 yards.

Hope this helps and not make things worse.

CAM
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-10-2005, 06:44 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Potomac River
Posts: 5,059
Re: moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

Cam

Completely agree with you. The chest difference between a small buck with a nice rack and a large buck with the same rack will lead to a miss at 1000yds.

Through the scope rangefinders were the best we had a quarter of a century ago and that was what I used. Sometimes I made my shot and sometimes I didn't.

Missed a very small whitetail buck about 5 years ago that came limping across a far hill with a broken front leg. I tried to range him thorugh the scope as he moved and tried my best to put him down but the little 240wby bullets impacts couldn't be spotted in the wet oak leaves. I know now that every bullet was over his back. I felt bad that I couldn't finish what some body else had crippled but through the scope just isn't fast enough and accurate enough.

Laser rangfinders are just so very accurate that there is no comparison. They are also very fast and do not depend on the animal standing still broad side against a good background while you take repeated readings.

Good to know how to do it through the scope in case your rangfinder's batteries go dead or it just won't range, but I would not recommend it for the primary method unless it is just all you can afford.
__________________
The Smokin Fur Rifle Club
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-10-2005, 08:31 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 877
Re: moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

1 mil= 3.438MOA
1 moa= .2908Mils
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-10-2005, 09:00 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: WV
Posts: 166
Re: moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

CAM and Buffalo Bob.. i have a laser for hunting.. i need the rangefinding reticle for a match in the spring .. it is to 1000yds unknown distance and no lasers allowed... shooting i believe all stationary targets .
thanks abinok.. now i just need to figure whether or not i can break it down accurately enough to tell if a steel plate is 850 or 925... i believe i will be shooting a 7 rem mag with a heavy krieger on it... so i will have a little room for error over the 308's that will be competing...but my lack of experience will overide my magnum advantage...lol..
Brien
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-11-2005, 08:45 AM
CAM CAM is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Utah
Posts: 390
Re: moa\'s to mil\'s (conversion)

BTM
OK, so now I know why you need to range find, But I still don't know why you want to convert MOA to MIL?

The problem as I see it from this side of the Puter is,

You have MOA in your scope.
You want to convert to Mils.
Estimate range in MILS.
use known range for drop.
convert known range to MOA hold.
pull trigger and knock over target.
Win match !!

Moa and Mils are both units of measure.
Its all most like feet and inches (Same thing but diferent)
or yards and meters you get the picture. if you know how big a yard is you tend to use yards, if you grew up using meters then you would like meters better.

For good ranging you need some smaller graduations than 3MOA, you can mentally divide the 3MOA into smaller sections but how good is subjective.

the reticle shown in this post would break it up into 1/4 MOA http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...=true#Post85130

I just find MOA to work better and faster for me.
for down and dirty use 1" for 100 yrds this will be off by about 5%

Are you trying to use a MIL card for range?

any who good luck at your match this spring.

CAM
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads for: moa's to mil's (conversion)
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
M14 Mag conversion ICANHITHIMMAN Gunsmithing 7 12-03-2008 10:42 AM
which way to go AR-50 or AR-15 conversion ? locotrician Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 8 07-29-2008 09:31 PM
Gun Conversion Archeryelk Long Range Hunting & Shooting 5 02-06-2006 07:58 AM
Saving MOA's when mounting a new scope??? tsmiller4 Long Range Scopes and Other Optics 5 10-10-2005 08:38 PM
sweet free balistic calculator, with MOA and mil's Ring Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics 31 10-16-2004 03:07 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:06 AM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC