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M14 / M1A accuracy

 
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Old 05-13-2004, 09:51 AM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

Speedbump, as always, it's about application. The 223 has its limitations for LR knockdown power. For punching paper in a service rifle class, the best right now. For shooting deer at 400yds, forget it.

For us up north, the M305 is about 1/3 the cost to prep compared to an US built AR. I like the bigger case and enjoy plinking with intent.

I guess the M305/M1A could be the '69 Camaros of the shooting world and the AR a new Honda sport compact. Different folks, different strokes.

Jerry
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Old 05-13-2004, 03:43 PM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

I have a Springfield M1A with a stainless barrel and composite stock. I haven't done any accuarizing with it and it will hold 1 MOA off the bench very consistently. I have on it smith enterprises bases and rings and a Leupold 3.5/10 M3. I have shot it with iron sights in service rifle competition and if I did my job it never let me down. Never shot it past 600 but it went .75 MOA at 100 with 168 SMKs and Varget. My rifle seems to prefer the lighter bullets but the SMK shoots very well in it. I don't shoot very hot loads through it and that may have something to do with keeping the gun accurate.
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Old 05-13-2004, 09:48 PM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

Jerry,

Good analogy with the '69 Camaro! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] And you're right, it is all about the application. Glad we still have a choice or two in the world....
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Old 05-19-2004, 07:33 AM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

I totaly disagree with the negative posts. The M-14 is probably the MOST reliable weapon this country has ever fielded. I carried a standard and a sniper version through all kinds of stuff in the service and never had a problem and I now have a poly receiver I built into a M-21 type. Bedded, heavy barrel and all. It is so reliably I would rather drag it's 20 pounds out of the cabinet every weekend to hunt with than any of the lightweights. I use steel bed for bedding. The army DOES not! I use match conditioning procedures used by the Navy and Marine Corps. The army does not! I clean my weapon the correct and thourough way like the Navy and marines, The army does not!
I was Navy and Army for 15 years so yes I am qualified to comment on their ways. The army may have a good match rifle team but they don't know squat about the M14. They couldn't keep one shooting straight any more than my wife could.
Mine can put 5 in 1 hole easily at 100 yards and I know if I see a critter I want to drop anywhere out to 1000 yards it's mine as long as the wind isn't blowing to ungodly hard. I limit my game animal hunting to 6-800 but an varmints they better not get in my crosshairs.
Before anyone goes trashing M-14's just consider who's building them now. One company who's idea of quality control is seriously lacking who puts out the most. A very few comparitively by excellent gunsmiths wich bring top dollar so that doesn't help their reputation any either. Most of them out there suffer from lack of knowlege by the owners in proper maintenance and feeding so sure they are gonna have not so good things to say about them.
It's not the gun that deserves the bad rep. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

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Old 05-21-2004, 10:57 AM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

M14Dan, very well said.

Was out plinking at clay pigieons last weekend at 575yds. Hit a few, came close on many more. I would say that many tactical/sniper/custom rifles would shoot no better at that range.

AT 750yds, was plinking on a boulder 2 ft wide and about 1 ft high. Center of mass hits. Wow, what more could you want from a tuned battle rifle.

Jerry

The M1A/M305 is very accurate when tuned properly and feed what it likes. It is just like the 1911. The orig WWI pistol was at best a 25 yd gun to hit a large target. The stuff that is out shooting today is simply no comparison for function and accuracy.

Jerry
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Old 10-01-2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

i know that the military at the springfield armory takes a standard m4 and replaces the barrel with a stainless steel one and those things are tack drivers
also using molybdenum oil not powder, again dont use powder because it decreases muzzel velocity and makes the barrel hard to clean because you can run a million patches through it and they will still come out black, ok maybe not a million but you get it. the moly oil saves barrels increases velocity and you can use it on one trip and not on the next with moly powder you may have trouble if you run out of powder at the range your trip is over, this is what ive read and heard, im sure some people love moly powder snipers use to have it as a standard. but from what i can tell it has been replaced by moly oil. but a stainless barrel will make an m4 or ar15 or whatever ar style brand you may have better . i belive with a new stainless barrel and moly oil you can use it far beyond the 3,000 round mark btw this website and forum kicks ass

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Old 10-01-2009, 07:28 PM
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Re: M14 / M1A accuracy

I have an out of the box Springfield service match model; it just plain shoot! Sub moa {3 rounds} is the norm at 100 yards.
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