Originally Posted by RS2G
REALLY, REALLY? I can’t believe I am reading this kind of stuff posted on this forum.
I have been lurking on here for a long time and this is the first time I have ever been motivated to post anything. How can you guys even compare shooting rock chucks and steel gongs past 1000 yards to anything close to what ANY of these snipers did?
You can claim it was luck if you want. But the fact remains that not one of those shots were taken without the sniper executing the perfect fundamentals of his craft.
At the time the sniper pulls the trigger he KNOWS the bullet will hit where he placed his point of aim. If he in the end misses he corrects his hold or dope and fires again if the target presents him with another opportunity. Without 100% confidence your probability of a hit drops dramatically. Luck is never a factor in the shooters mind.
Yes there are the “damn dude did you just see that” moments but in the end the sniper uses his training to effectively engage targets with the equipment he is issued.
Too many people seem to think that their skills as a marksman give them the ability to dissect an event in a combat situation and break it down into something they themselves could have or could not have done. Combat sniping and long range hunting have far less in common than you may think. The science behind the shots maybe the same, but the mental focus and intestinal fortitude required is not.
Get back to what this site is about, hunting.
It is obvious that you are one of the folks who read about shooting long distance and play on the internet boards to make those comments. Go and get some trigger time and learn about what it takes with respect to equipment, knowledge and skill. Then you will learn to keep your mouth shut before making an azz out of yourself.
I am only speaking about equipment and contrary to anything you want to apply from watching movies or reading on shooting boards, physics are physics. Have shot with active and retired military shooters a few times during competitions and have never ever heard one say he wishes he had his issue rifle.
In short and the truth hurts here-----you do not know what you are talking about when speaking about skills and equipment required to shoot long distance albeit it people or steel for that matter.
The mental part as well as the training required to get yourself into position without being detected, stay in position without being detected, make the shot then withdraw without being detected are a different matter all together.
One of the best Snipers who has ever pulled a trigger was Carlos Hathcock (I met and talked to him at the SHOT Show in Dallas in the later stages of his life when as a result of his service to this country his body was almost gone yes it was sad)----read his book and then get back to me about the hunting comment because the "Gunny" does not agree with you.
This is a quote from Buffalobob when asked "do you shoot competition":
"I am one of those people who do not like to practice and it is difficult for me to go and practice. Shooting competition is my form of practice. I am not very good at it but I show up and shoot my bullets and experiment with my stuff." Well sorry but seems to me that you may be one of those "all hat and no cattle folks" as we like to say in Texas. LOL
Case Closed Bob.