we've all read this type of debate. my question for these "get the game close" guys is...how much skill does it take, to kill a deer, at 60 yards, with a modern centerfire rifle. most of the time they're in a blind or treestand and the deer comes walking by. i understand archery is a different story. but most deer are shot under 100 yards with a scoped rifle from a stationary position. not much hunting skill involved in my opinion.