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[MagMan]

Looks like a loose front ring (dovetail) to me. I may be off base, but it's Dec. 22 and I haven't been wrong all year. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Just an idea

tried a new scope?

[edge]

I will be putting a 1 pc. base on next week so I should find out pretty soon, that would be great.

edge.

[RDM416]

Edge,

I don't have any other suggestions to offer you than what the other posts have said. Judging from your posts I think you know a LOT more about muzzleloaders than I do anyway. Which bring me to my question for you.

Do you know anything about BadBull muzzleloaders? I am planning at least one mz hunt next year in Kansas an may do another state where only mz or shotgun is allowed...and maybe an mz elk in NM.

Anyway, I have decided it is time to get serious about a muzzleloader. I have a Savage that I shoot smokeless in now and it does pretty well at typical mz ranges (150 yds) or so, but I want an mz that I can be comfortable with a 300 yard shot. Any thoughts??

[trb0]

Doe's the Shilen barrel use the lock ring like the original Savage barrel? If so, the bedding may be part of your problem.I had a good shooting savage that went bad after glassing the action,but finally figured out that with the wrench grooves in the locking ring that it didn't always return the barrel to the same place due to the wrench grooves in the lock ring.After I removed the glass from around the lock ring it went back to shooting great.What brand and caliber bullet are you using,I'm really interested in your setup.I killed a doe at 410 yards with my savage last year and tinker with mine at longer ranges but a 250 grain SST really pounds you.I would love to find something like yours that would shoot accurate at long range .Good luck Tim Baldwin

[edge]

The Bad Bull looks to be very well made. I don't know anyone that has used one.

I prefer a more streamlined bullet, but I don't doubt that they perform as advertised.

I have one nagging question about their design. Where I live a muzzleloader is considered unloaded when there is not primer/cap on the rifle. I have not posed the question the the makers of the BB, but how would you get the primer out without firing the rifle?

edge.

PS If you buy this rifle let me know how you make out with it.

[edge]

Tim, I eliminated the barrel nut entirely.

The 1 1/4inch barrel shoulder locks the lug in place. The rifle is a solid 12 pounds and shooting a 150 grain AccuBond with a 30 grain sabot @ 3100 fps is a real pussycat.

Some like a light rifle, but I like to shoot a lot and am happy with the weight.

edge.

[trb0]

Do you make the sabots yourself?What caliber bullet are you using?Our muzzleloader season is over next week and I might try to build one similar to what you have .Thanks Tim Baldwin