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Got to vent a bit..............

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Unread 09-16-2008, 04:05 PM
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Got to vent a bit..............

My dad has been working hard on filling formed brass orders for my customers using my APS wildcat chambered rifles. Anyway, over the past two weeks, he has gone through 15 boxes of 338 Lapua brass in forming rounds for the 7mm Allen Magnum, 300 Allen Xpress and 338 Allen Xpress for customers.

Of those 15 boxes of brass, all new Lapua 100 ct boxes, sealed tight when they arrived, here is what we actually got:

6 boxes w/ 98 cases
9 boxes w/ 99 cases

That means that I paid for 1500 338 Lapua cases and received 1479 cases.....

Now I know in the scheme of things this is not a big deal but at $2.20 each+shipping, it starts to add up and nearly $50 our of pocket......

Now I know this happens. Its not uncommon at all to see this from time to time, generally you see it with smaller cases alot but when your dealing with brass the cost and quality of 338 Lapua brass, this is really unacceptable, not to mention happening in every one of 15 boxes of brass.

It would seem that someone is trying to save a buck here(many actually) at Lapua. One would hope this is not intentional but its pretty consistant to think other wise. Just think, for every 80 boxes of brass sold, you get a free box to sell at full price so they could make ALOT of money for nothing other then ripping off their customers.

I would hope this is not what they are doing and that this is an isolated occurance but it smells bad anyway. THis is the first time I have ever seen this with Lapua brass. Just a bit annoyed is all.

Perhaps I should contact Lapua and fill them in on this problem!!!

Nuff said, rant over.
Kirby Allen(50)

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Unread 09-16-2008, 04:20 PM
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Re: Got to vent a bit..............

I would MOST definately fill them in on the problem. That is pure BS to pay that much for there brass and not get what your suppose to. For them to be off 1-2 pieces on EVERY box smells fishy to me as well...I've seen it happen with winchester brass every once in a great moon you'll get 49 of the 50, actually I've gotten 51 of 50 more times then I've got shorted. But then again, I'm not paying almost $2 a case, so its not a overly big deal to me. And it didn't happen 15 out of 15 times either...
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Unread 09-16-2008, 04:40 PM
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Re: Got to vent a bit..............

You should of bought Remington, they always throw in one extra LOL

I'd sure make them aware of the count issue. Especially the quantity that you buy in. One every now and then maybe, but not each box.
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Unread 09-16-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Got to vent a bit..............

Did you buy directly from Lapua? Maybe the middle man is taking a larger cut?

If some is good and more is better, then too much is just right.

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Unread 09-16-2008, 09:52 PM
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Re: Got to vent a bit..............

Maybe the shortcomings of our education system have reached to Finland and they simply think we can't count. In another generation it may have gone undetected.

I've got an unopened box or two of .338 Lapua brass, think I'll pop the seal and give them a count. Very disturbing, your findings.

I know it wasn't your point, but Powder Valley and Bruno Shooters Supply both have .338 Lapua (Lapua brand) brass for under $2 each. Powder Valley will sell you 1,000 pieces for $1,841 ($1.84 ea.) but maybe it'll be a Finnish 1,000, or about 990 by U.S. count.

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Unread 09-17-2008, 12:14 AM
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Re: Got to vent a bit..............


Brass and bullet makers usualy package there products buy weight so if you
have some older brass from Lapua weigh it and then weigh the new stuff.

The new stuff will probably be Heavier,Hence the short count.

If not then they "Chinglelade" you ( an old mexican term for SCREWED ).

Most of the time when you get one extra case it's because the total weight
fell just short and an extra case was thrown in to be sure you get the proper

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Unread 09-17-2008, 08:17 AM
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Re: Got to vent a bit..............

I would definitely contact Lapua about it, that ain't right.
That being said I think I'll open up my box of 338 LM brass and start counting it seeing that I need to get loading for that new APS 338 LM that should be arriving real soon.

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