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10-30-2012, 10:33 PM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
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Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
I could take offense to that because I have them both but what makrs a good shooter is practice and consistency, not the caliber.
Having said that, a 338 caliber or a 50 cal makes a lot bigger hole than a 17.
None of my rifles have ever seen a sled, not even the cannons. 
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I figure the people on this site wouldn't take offense to that comment because they actually know how to use them!  The guy that can't hit the target at all at 300 yards with his 338 is just a walking joke! I will join the 338 club one day, but not till I've outgrown my 6.5 and 30 calibers....
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10-30-2012, 10:35 PM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
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Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
I could take offense to that because I have them both but what makrs a good shooter is practice and consistency, not the caliber.
Having said that, a 338 caliber or a 50 cal makes a lot bigger hole than a 17.
None of my rifles have ever seen a sled, not even the cannons. 
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The only time we use our lead sled is when we have to break in the barrel on a heavy kicker, like our 7 lbs unbraked 300 Rum and the 338 Lapua.
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10-30-2012, 10:37 PM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
I use a led sled a lot as a tool for test firing a new rifle with a "Blue Pill" for safety, when cleaning
they work well also.
I like to use one for bore sighting instead of sticking something down the barrel muzzle when
installing/mounting a scope because I can usually get within 3 or 4" of the zero on the first
shot and save time and ammo.
They are great for brake in when you are not so worried about grouping just shoot and clean.
At the range they make a fairly good gun vice to do some minor adjustments or re torquing
But when sighting in or verifying zeros on hunting rifles/pistols I like to use sand bags and try
to replicate real world hunting conditions so the rifles performs the same in the field as at the
range.
On Pistols I don't even attempt to use a sled, just the sand bags
It's a great tool but it is no substitute for practice and skill.
Just my opinion.
J E CUSTOM
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10-30-2012, 10:58 PM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
Good opinion JE, IMO. I'm old school, boresighting with the bolt out at a spot on the wall, secured in the Tipton of course.
My comment about joining thr 338 club or in my case the 338/50 club is I did it because I'm retired and I can afford it. The kids are gone and being an empty nester, toys are obtainable now that weren't when the kids were draining the wallet.
Not really a 'club'. More like a financial burden.
....No offense to our resident 14 year old...........
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10-30-2012, 11:03 PM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
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Originally Posted by SidecarFlip
Good opinion JE, IMO. I'm old school, boresighting with the bolt out at a spot on the wall, secured in the Tipton of course.
My comment about joining thr 338 club or in my case the 338/50 club is I did it because I'm retired and I can afford it. The kids are gone and being an empty nester, toys are obtainable now that weren't when the kids were draining the wallet.
Not really a 'club'. More like a financial burden.
....No offense to our resident 14 year old........... 
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None taken.
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10-30-2012, 11:12 PM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
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Originally Posted by J E Custom
I use a led sled a lot as a tool for test firing a new rifle with a "Blue Pill" for safety, when cleaning
they work well also.
I like to use one for bore sighting instead of sticking something down the barrel muzzle when
installing/mounting a scope because I can usually get within 3 or 4" of the zero on the first
shot and save time and ammo.
They are great for brake in when you are not so worried about grouping just shoot and clean.
At the range they make a fairly good gun vice to do some minor adjustments or re torquing
But when sighting in or verifying zeros on hunting rifles/pistols I like to use sand bags and try
to replicate real world hunting conditions so the rifles performs the same in the field as at the
range.
On Pistols I don't even attempt to use a sled, just the sand bags
It's a great tool but it is no substitute for practice and skill.
Just my opinion.
J E CUSTOM
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J E CUSTOM did you see my question on your thread about your muzzle brake?
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I'm 14
"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
~George Washington
You know you are shooting long range when the CheyTac team that's always on History Channel ranges the target and starts sobbing.
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10-31-2012, 05:47 AM
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Re: Free recoil why why why?
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Originally Posted by J E Custom
I use a led sled a lot as a tool for test firing a new rifle with a "Blue Pill" for safety, when cleaning
they work well also.
I like to use one for bore sighting instead of sticking something down the barrel muzzle when
installing/mounting a scope because I can usually get within 3 or 4" of the zero on the first
shot and save time and ammo.
They are great for brake in when you are not so worried about grouping just shoot and clean.
At the range they make a fairly good gun vice to do some minor adjustments or re torquing
But when sighting in or verifying zeros on hunting rifles/pistols I like to use sand bags and try
to replicate real world hunting conditions so the rifles performs the same in the field as at the
range.
On Pistols I don't even attempt to use a sled, just the sand bags
It's a great tool but it is no substitute for practice and skill.
Just my opinion.
J E CUSTOM
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Good points, I can see using one in that manner for sure but not as these guys do.
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