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Diesel Fuel in Venezuela .06 per gallon

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Unread 03-20-2008, 06:12 PM
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Sorry brother buzz, but I do not feel I laid blame or made comparisons, just apalled at some americans lack of unity for his common man when he is down, be he dumb as a brick, poor as dirt or a wealthy oil man. My first post was simply a hello wake up and look at this..But to answer your question about why you should feel sorry and possibly help out someone who made poor decisions when you did not, I simply do it because it is right. I think we founded a nation on that principal.
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Unread 03-20-2008, 08:48 PM
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Your first post insinuates that, since diesel fuel is supposedly .06 a gallon in Venezuela, we are somehow being taken advantage of in this country.......problem is, you didn't investigate WHY fuel is cheap there, you simply passed along the ignorance......looks like you are the one who needs to wake up......

Take the opportunity to learn something here and on the other board you posted this nonsense to.......doesn't look like it went over too well there either........
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Unread 03-24-2008, 10:37 PM
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Fuel in alberta

We are paying $1.08 CAN PER LITER REG GAS and $1.22 for diesel.This converts to$3.98US per gal gas and $4.51 for diesel.You don't have it so bad you are paying less at the pump for Alberta oil than we are.Wait until your federal and state governments tax fuel as much as ours do.Then you will feel the pain.How about $150 plus to fill a Suburban.
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Unread 03-25-2008, 07:35 AM
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>> This is from the guy who had his finger on the nuclear trigger for
>> years as head of our defense and response complex buried under
>> Mountain at Colorado Springs. He was the only person who could
>> a nuclear attack after advising the sitting president of a missile
>> launch by our enemies and our need to respond. No political or
>> type in the US had more knowledge about day to day military actions
>> around the world.
>> Everyone should find quiet time to read this.
>> John R. (Jack) Farrington Major General, USAF (Retired)
>> Middle East Imperative
>> BY: JIM CASH, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.
>> I recently wrote about the war in Iraq and the larger war against
>> radical Islam, eliciting a number of responses. Let me try and put
>> conflict in proper perspective.
>> Understand, the current battle we are engaged in is much bigger than
>> just Iraq. What happens in the next year will affect this country and

>> how our kids and grand kids live throughout their lifetime, and
>> Radical Islam has been attacking the West since the seventh century.
>> They have been defeated in the past and decimated to the point of
>> hundreds of years to recover. But they can never be totally defeated.

>> Their birth rates are so far beyond civilized world rates that in
>> they recover and attempt to dominate again.
>> There are eight terror-sponsoring countries that make up the grand
>> threat to the West. Two, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, just need firm
>> pressure from the West to make major reforms. They need to decide who

>> they are really going to support and commit to that support. That
>> answer is simple. They both will support who they think will hang in
>> there until the end, and win. We are not sending very good signals in

>> that direction right now, thanks to the Democrats.
>> The other six, Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Libya
>> will require regime change or a major policy shift. Now, let's look
>> more closely.
>> Afghanistan and Iraq have both had regime changes, but are being
>> by outsiders from Syria and Iran We have scared Gaddafi's pants off,
>> and he has given up his quest for nuclear weapons, so I don't think
>> Libya is now a threat.
>> North Korea (the non-Islamic threat) can be handled diplomatically by

>> buying them off. They are starving. That leaves Syria and Iran. Syria

>> is like a frightened puppy. Without the support of Iran they will
>> the stronger side. So where does that leave us? Sooner or later, we
>> going to be forced to confront Iran, and it better be before they
>> nuclear capability.
>> In 1989 I served as a Command Director inside the Cheyenne Mountain
>> complex located in Colorado Springs, Colorado for almost three years.

>> My job there was to observe (through classified means) every missile
>> shot anywhere in the world and assess if it was a threat to the US or

>> Canada. If any shot was threatening to either nation I had only
>> to advise the President, as he had only minutes to respond.
>> I watched Iran and Iraq shoot missiles at each other every day, and
>> day, for months . They killed hundreds of thousands of their people.
>> Know why? They were fighting for control of the Middle East and that
>> enormous oil supply.
>> At that time, they were preoccupied with their internal problems and
>> could care less about toppling the west. Oil prices were fairly
>> and we could not see an immediate threat. Well, the worst part of
>> we have done as a nation in Iraq is to do away with the military
>> capability of one of those nations. Now, Iran has a clear field to
>> dominate the Middle East, since Iraq is no longer a threat to them.
>> They have turned their attention to the only other threat to their
>> dominance, they are convinced they will win, because the US is so
>> divided, and the Democrats (who now control Congress and may control
>> Presidency in 2008) have openly said we are pulling out.
>> Do you have any idea what will happen if the entire Middle East turns

>> their support to Iran , which they will obviously do if we pull out?
>> is not the price of oil we will have to worry about. Oil WILL NOT BE
>> AVAILABLE to this country at any price. I personally would vote for
>> presidential candidate who did what JFK did with the space program;
>> declare a goal to bring this country to total energy independence in
>> decade.
>> Yes, it is about oil. The economy in this country will totally die if

>> that Middle East supply is cut off right now. It will not be a
>> recession. It will be a depression that will make 1929 look like the
>> "good-old-days". The bottom line here is simple. If Iran is forced to

>> fall in line, the fighting in Iraq will end over night, and the
>> nightmare will be over.
>> One way or another, Iran must be forced to join modern times and the
>> global community. It may mean a real war - if so, now is the time,
>> before we face a nuclear Iran with the capacity to destroy Israel and

>> begin a new ice age.
>> I urge you to read the book "END GAME" by two of our best Middle East

>> experts, true American patriots and retired military generals, Paul
>> Vallely and Tom McInerney. They are our finest, and totally honest in

>> their assessment of why victory in the Middle East is so important,
>> how it can be won. Proceeds for the book go directly to memorial fund

>> for our fallen soldiers who served the country during the war on
>> You can find that book by going to the internet through Stand-up
>> at www.ospreyradio.us <http://www.ospreyradio.us/> or
>> On the other hand, we have several very angry retired generals today,

>> who evidently have not achieved their lofty goals, and insist on
>> and raving about the war. They are wrong, and doing the country great

>> harm by giving a certain political party reason to use them as
>> to back their anti-war claims.
>> You may be one of those who believe nothing could ever be terrible
>> enough to support our going to war. If that is the case I should stop

>> here, as that level of thinking approaches mental disability in this
>> and age. It is right up there with alien abductions and high altitude

>> seeding through government aircraft contrails. I helped produced
>> contrails for almost 30 years, and I can assure you we were not
>> the atmosphere. The human race is a war-like population, and if a
>> country is not willing to protect itself, it deserves the
>> Nuff-said!!!
>> Now, my last comments will get to the nerve. They will be on
>> I am not a Republican. And, George Bush has made enough mistakes as
>> President to insure my feelings about that for the rest of my life.
>> However, the Democratic Party has moved so far left, they have made
>> support those farther to the right. I am a conservative who totally
>> supports the Constitution of this country. The only difference
>> the United States and the South American, third world, dictator
>> and ever-changing South American governments, is our US Constitution.

>> This Republic (note I did not say Democracy) is the longest standing
>> world has ever known, but it is vulnerable. It would take so little
>> change it through economic upheaval. There was a time when
>> could disagree, but still work together. We are past that time, and
>> that is the initial step toward the downfall of our form of
>> I think that many view Bush-hating as payback time. The Republicans
>> hated the Clinton's and now the Democrats hate Bush. So, both parties

>> are putting their hate toward willingness to do anything for
>> dominance to include lying and always taking the opposite stand just
>> the sake of being opposed.
>> In my lifetime, after serving in uniform for Presidents Kennedy,
>> Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, and Bush I have a pretty good
>> for which party supported our military, and what military life was
>> under each of their terms. And, let me assure you that times were
>> under the Republicans.
>> Service under Jimmy Carter was devastating for all branches of the
>> military.
>> And, Ronald Regan was truly a salvation. You can choose to listen to
>> enriched newscasters, and foolish people like John Murtha (he is no
>> hero), Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Michael Moore, Jane Fonda , Harry
>> Russ Feingold, Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, and on-and-on to include

>> the true fools in Hollywood if you like. If you do, your conclusions
>> will be totally wrong.
>> The reason that I write, appear on radio talk shows, and do
everything I
>> can to denounce those people is simple. THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR THIRST

>> THIS COUNTRY. I cannot abide that. Pelosi clearly defied the Logan
>> by going to Syria , which should have lead to imprisonment of three
>> years and a heavy fine.
>> Jane Fonda did more to prolong the Vietnam war longer than any other
>> human being (as acknowledged by Ho Chi Minh in his writing before he
>> died). She truly should have been indicted for treason, along with
>> radical husband, Tom Hayden, and forced to pay the consequences.
>> This country has started to soften by not enforcing its laws, which
>> another indication of a Republic about to fall. All Democrats, along
>> with the Hollywood elite, are sending us headlong into a total defeat
>> the Middle East, which will finally give Iran total dominance in the
>> region. A lack of oil in the near future will be the final straw that

>> dooms this Republic. However, if we refuse to let this happen and
>> really get serious about an energy self-sufficiency program, this can
>> avoided. I am afraid, however, that we are going in the opposite
>> direction.
>> If we elect Hillary Clinton and a Democrat-controlled congress, and
>> carry through with allowing Iran to take control of the Middle East,
>> continue to refuse development of nuclear energy, refuse to allow
>> drilling for new oil, and continue to do nothing but oppose
>> Bush, it will be over in terms of what we view as the good life in
>> USA.
>> Now, do I think that all who do not support the war are un-American
>> of course not. They just do not understand the importance of total
>> victory in that region.
>> Another failure of George Bush is his inability to explain to the
>> American people why we are there, and why we MUST win. By the way, it

>> is not a war. It is martial law that is under attack by Iranian and
>> Syrian outside influences, and there is a difference.
>> So, what do I believe? What is the bottom line? I will simply say
>> the Democratic Party has fielded the foulest, power hungry,
>> anti-country, self absorbed group of individuals that I have observed
>> my lifetime. Our educational system is partially to blame for
>> the mass of America to be taken in by this group.
>> To win wars, you must put boots on the ground. When you put boots on
>> ground, soldiers are going to die. A President must make the war
>> decision wisely, and insure that the cause is right before using his
>> last political option. However, CONTROLLING IRAN AND DEMOCRATIZING
>> Jimmy L. Cash, Brig. Gen., USAF, Ret.
>> Lakeside , Montana 59922
>> "I'll tell you what war is all about, you've got to kill people, and
>> when you've killed enough they stop fighting."
>> - Gen. Curtis LeMay
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Unread 03-25-2008, 09:30 AM
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That's real nice, and I agree with a lot of what was written.......but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with $.06/gallon diesel fuel in Venezuela........

By the way.......any idea who the biggest supplier of oil imported into the US is???? Here's a hint.......it's not any country in the middle east.......
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Unread 03-25-2008, 10:06 AM
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Hey buzz: You got stock in the oil buis or something? High diesel prices can only hurt the U.S. not help it. It's really pretty easy to understand. Everything we buy, eat or consume comes off a truck. The more fuel cost's the more anything you can spend money on will cost. For obvious reasons this is not good for the American economy especially when were sliding into a recession. Of course if your in the oil buisness you don't have to worry because you are getting rich off the american economy. I work at a truck shop and if you want to talk to mad people talk to the truckers.
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Unread 03-25-2008, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by linksmechanic View Post

I work at a truck shop and if you want to talk to mad people talk to the truckers.
AND, I'm sure that they are mad at the politicians that THEY elected, that are NOT drilling in Anwar, NOT drilling offshore, NOT creating a Manhattan Project to gasify and liquefy Coal, NOT putting the mechanism in place to enable the building of Nuclear Power plants!

I am thankful that they are mad at THEM, and not the Oil Companies that ARE supplying us with oil!

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