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Unread 05-06-2006, 10:07 AM
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Question or thought?

Why is it accepted that when one is buying an item from the internet classifieds, that the check or money order, must first appear before the seller ships the agreed item?

Both parties stand to lose equally if the other is not legit. Seller can lose the item, and the buyer can lose the cash.

What about a trade? Does the person who initiated the deal wait for the traded item to show up before their item is shipped?

I buy a bunch of stuff on line. Knock on wood, I've never been stiffed yet.

But it gets frustrating sending good money out, just to wait for "the trusted stranger" to produce their goods.

Why can't both parties ship simultaneously? I mean don't both parties in a legit deal stand to lose equally? So why does the buyer accept all of the risk?

An example: I agree to buy some item. I bust ass to the post office to buy a money order, ship it high speed to the seller, then the seller sits on it until it is convenient for them to ship.

I traded a rifle with a fella once, and we both shipped simultaneously. We could literally track them in route to the other. It was a pleasing deal to say the least.

This is wrong, IMHO.

Just curious what others think about this established system. And does anyone here do anything differently?

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    Unread 05-06-2006, 11:49 AM
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    Re: Classifieds

    What I ike to do if I'm sending any larger amout of money is either pay with a personal check or money order that way you have some mees of keeping track of your transaction. As far as the seller being honest thats just one of those things you have to trust and if they don't come through then you have to take legal action.
    If I sell sombody something ,say a barrel for $200, if the buyer sends the funds priority mail with delivery confermation then I'll ship the barrel as soon as I get a DC number. But iff the buyer sends via standard mail,then I prefer to wait till the funds arive but if its sombody thats a common member here I have no problem trusting their word.
    On a personal note , lately the mail service in my area has sucked hind tit due to most of the post offices in the New Orleans area being damaged buy hurrican Katrina last year. I have bills that show up weeks late sometimes not at all and about 20% of my mail takes an extended time to make it to its destination. For instance , I agreed to buy some bullets from the classified ads here , I mailed a postal money order out , 4 days later it shows up riuned from getting wet it seems that a mail basket that all my mail was in got wet and was ruined. So I had to go down fight with the dip sticks at the P.O. to get my money back for the money order that they ruined and resend another payment. The sell got impatient and reposted the bullets for sale because he haden't recieved payment.

    It basiacly is a trust type deal some folks don't want to trust that you'll send the money.
    If you order something from Bass Pro Shops do you think that they are gonna send it out before they have made sure your money is good?
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    Unread 05-06-2006, 12:58 PM
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    Re: Classifieds

    I would do that, but never really thought about it till now just excepted the way it is. Now day's most people pay with paypal, so it is instant, but is frustrating when the seller sits on his ass. Read the post 2 down from this one.(Rcbs Rangemaster) He doesnt trust me I guess. In that case I would want my money first, because I was just trying to do a favor, and would have to order the scale before I shipped it to him. So not only would I be out the scale, but the money and shipping too. Moe
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    Unread 05-06-2006, 02:10 PM
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    Re: Classifieds

    A little, recent story for you, my father has been trying to sell a boat this past month. A potential buyer contacted him many times and the deal was eventually closed. My father agreed to let him take the boat upon his receipt of a downpayment(20000$). The boat is in another city so luckily my dad had to reschedule the meeting to turn the boat over to the soon to be new owner. Last week he deposited the check in his account. Two days later he was contacted by the bank and FBI informing him that the check(20000$) he deposited was counterfeit.
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    Unread 05-06-2006, 10:58 PM
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    I have a buddy who posted his '04 chevy 2500 duramax on the Denali trader. A guy sent him a check for $30,000, a cashier's check that is. Well, the bank got a hold af him and told him that it was fraudulent. I tell you what, there are some scumbags in this world.
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    Unread 05-06-2006, 11:58 PM
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    Re: Classifieds


    No, I haven't had any problems like those above. I was just curious what others thought and did.

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    Unread 05-07-2006, 12:26 AM
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    Re: Classifieds

    the two circumstances above are referred to as the "Nigerian Scam" and it's been getting pretty popular. My sister lost 4K to this sucks, and then the bank worked her over, but live and learn I guess... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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