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Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

 
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Old 11-12-2013, 10:36 PM
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Re: Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

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BTW, price for a new standard K -80 shotgun in the US is 14 395 dollares at Clay Target Sports...
MAN!!! That is even more than I would have been able to dream that they would have gone up. I guess that shows how long I have been out of the game.

Long range hunting is expensive, but there are more expensive shooting sports for sure!

Okay, back to the single shot discussion...

If those single shot rifles are able to be disassembled and reassembled and still maintain that kind of accuracy then the workmanship must be beyond good! I would love to see one in action.

Another thing that I noticed is the amount of drop in the stocks for the guns you mentioned. Will they build a straighter stocked gun that would accommodate a scope better? It seems like it would be very difficult to maintain a good cheek weld, and as a result I would expect that one would get a pretty good welt on the cheek if you shot it very much/often.

Boy, they sure are pretty guns though!!!!

On a side note, we currently have a foreign exchange student from Norway. I asked her where Buskerud is, in response to your 8mm thread. She lit up as she was reminded of home. Apparently her family has a summer home in the region. We visited about hunting (she is not a hunter), but I asked if she and her family would ever put me up to stay if I could manage to go on a moose hunt there. She said sure. I may have to look you up if that ever comes to fruition.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:41 AM
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Re: Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

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Yepp, looking at this price makes me feel quite sick either... Brand names, reputation, all the same as with cars. You know well that a Porsche is costy. ;-)
You're to a 100% right about stock forms. I prefer also the straight classic line and not the so called "Fischbauchschaft", fishbelly stock in translation. This fishbelly stock is still popular in Europe and comes by origin from Southern Germany (Bavaria) and Austria.The straight is also much better due to absorbtion of recoil. BTW, it'll be no problem to order a straight stock without extra costs. That includes also a decent cheek weld after your personal taste and preference. What nice surprise with your exchange student from Norway. I'm living in a town straight up Northwest from Oslo 65 km away. The landscape is marvellous, many hills all over covered by deep forests. Many lakes, small and big, and rivers as well. Made for hunting moose. Currently weíve some smaller issues with high numbers of predators here, mostly wolf and lynx.When you will come here I will try my very best to get a moose hunt organized. "Hilsen til din gjest fra Norge" - Greetings to your guest from Norway!
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:59 AM
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Re: Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

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I asked her where Buskerud is, in response to your 8mm thread.
Since you named the 8 mm thread, Iím thinking about another topic in this context that might be interesting to discuss. ;-) Adequate calibres for single shot break action - rifles. Iíll try to get it done the easy way now, because Iím going to start with 7 mm and stop with 8 mm which of course includes the 30 cal.
In my opinion, rimmed 7 mm rounds are best suited for SSBA, so Iíll take the classical 7x57R and the more potent 7x65R. The 7x65R is the rimmed version of the famous 7x64 and has about the same performance as the 280 Rem. One great belted mag - round should not be missing in this addition, and thatís the 7 RM.


Now we are coming to an extremely interesting round in the 30 cal. group, the 30R Blaser. This very potent rimmed round of a 30 cal. was invented by Blaser 10 Ė 15 years ago. Especially for use in the numerous numbers of break actions in Europe. It made its way on very short terms and has already gained its fast place in the heart of many hunters. Brass is no issue at all. With new powders and bullets this rimmed round has come extremely close to the performance of a 300 WM. Quite stout recoil in lightweight SSBAs, so a good muzzle brake has to be recommended! This round could give break actions a real boost in the USA and among LRH. Combined knowledge in the US and superb new powders and bullets like the Bergers and ABs etc. should give this round the opportunity of a breakthrough.



Now to my personal all-time favourites, the 8 mms. Since the 8x57 I(R)S has no adequate flat trajectory Iím not taking it on the list. I would recommend the potent 8x75RS, 8x68S and the great American 8 mm RM. All these three need a muzzle brake because of stout recoil. As someone else said before there is something magical to find about the 8 mms due to their final performance on game. + IMHO!
Please come with pros and cons, ideas and suggestions. Every good and passionate discussion is in need of those.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:30 AM
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Re: Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

I am not very familiar with any of the calibers that you described, but they appear to be right in line with our large magnums.

The rimmed, or semi-rimmed bases along the tapered cases would make them perfect to be extracted from those single shot, break open rifles. Is this what gives the belted magnums an advantage in a break open gun? I would think that long, straight walled cases, such as the Remington Ultra Mag variations, would not work very well.

Currently, the is no one that I know near me who owns any guns chambered in European calibers. I would love to shoot them side-by-side with their American counterparts and compare. It would be a fun project
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:32 AM
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Re: Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

The only single shot I've owned was a Ruger #3, in .375 Winchester. I do think rimmed cartridges should almost always be used in these. Just a personal preference. Just read the prior post. I could make an exception for the .300 H&H.
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:03 PM
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The only single shot I've owned was a Ruger #3, in .375 Winchester. I do think rimmed cartridges should almost always be used in these. Just a personal preference. Just read the prior post. I could make an exception for the .300 H&H.
Actually are you right. The best suited rounds for break actions are the rimmed due to the extractor but comprises have to be made sometimes. BTW, you find can find a rimmed version of the 300 H & H, the so called 300 H & H Flanged Mag. S. E.
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Old 11-13-2013, 08:30 PM
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Re: Break action rifles for (mountain-) hunts?

I love the look of break action rifles and am currently fighting the urge to buy a full stocked version of the new BRNO. One thing you have to be careful of in break actions and magnum rounds is frame flex from what we would call bolt thrust in a bolt action rifle. Break actions are sleek, compact, elegant not to mention ambidextrous.
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