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First, please disclose if you have any financial or personal interest in any cleaning product if you don't mind. That's not an attack, just basic protocol for discussion of scientific information with commercial interests.
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Very reasonable question.
Being an active 50 BMG shooter ( I own four 50 BMGs). (which seem to have the biggest problem with copper fouling) - a professional mathematician and amateur chemist - I've been testing/analyzing copper removal for a couple years. I have no fiscal association with any of the products. You are absolutely correct in protocol requiring full disclosure (apparently Roge K violated that rule). As a logician, I'm forced to point out making assumptions, conclusions based on financial connection is logically invalid (in fact the logic flaw is so common, it has a name - the motivation flaw
. At no time did I discount Roge K's
conclusions based on his obvious fiscal connection - I went the logicians route and exposed the flaws in his testing with basic ammoniacal chemistry principals.
One fundamental flaw with some of the test designs that I total missed (the admin sewwhat89 at PLRH
pointed it out in his post HERE <font color="purple"> pristine copper bullets are far different than copper/powder residue forced into the lands/grooves/metal cracks/pockets - under high temp/pressure. </font>
The best cleaner I've found (I have not tested that many) is 26 degree baume aqueous ammonia. The 2nd best cleaner I've found is 22 degree baume I get for free (used Ammonia).
I have a paint shop with forced/filtered air, high quality respirators, nitrile gloves, goggles and other safety equipment. I don't recommend my approach for most folks.
I use my bore-scope before, during, after cleaning. I use a plastic jag when pushing ammonia (most serious gun guys would be embarrassed to own a plastic jag, but they work great with ammonia).
I will be ordering Warthog 1134
based on the information from Roge K
. I appears to be the only product you can seal inside your barrel, leave it 24 hours and return to a copper free barrel. The could be very useful when I badly foul several of my 50 BMGs.
One concern I have about Warthog 1134
- aqueous solutions containing oxidizers are generally unstable and have a fairly short shelf life. Should Warthog 1134
be stored in the freezer? What is the shelf life?