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Old 07-27-2008, 08:12 PM
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Buzzgun,

Here is where you are missing the boat. The whole idea of this post was not who has the right to be at the range based on equipment. The idea was that when people are there with automatics, they need to be more considerate and it seems to be more of a problem with that group than any other.

If you think I sound like I'm better than these guys, than that is your judgement. It doesn't bother me a bit. I have been called an elitist a time or two before, but interestingly, only by people who don't know me or what I do. By being educated and well versed in the more extensive aspects of ballistics and firearms, those who are less educated usually throw this at me. No biggie. I am not going to unlearn everything I know just to please the "rambo wannabes". Does that mean that the rambo guys don't deserve the right to own guns? NO! DOes that mean the rambo guys shouldn't get to use the rifle range? NO! Does that mean that when they show up and spray lead all over the place that those who are there to shoot accurately should go over to them and talk down to them? NO! Does the fact that the rifle they chose to bring mean they are not serious about their sport? NO! But I think we've all been to the range enough times to see the same thing I witnessed and if you haven't, you will. Trust me.

ANd if you had seen most of these guys at the range that day, you would have taken the same bet that they couldn't pay for any damage they would have caused. COme to think of it, I don't know too many people at all who carry 10 grand around in their wallet!

Btw, I'd like to know what kind of a black gun you bought and who signed it to make it total more than $10,000? Unless Angelina Jolie made love to it and John Hancocked it, you got skrewed. My friends who are bigtime into tactical shooting have spent a pretty penny on black guns and they aren't even half that. ANd it sounds like Boss Hoss has darn well had every kind of AR and he can't fathom the amount you're talking either.
I agree that those shooting something that throws brass SHOULD be very considerate as to where that brass is going.......go back and read my first post in this thread and you will find that I was stating an opinion that your post did, in fact, come across to me just as it had to Nonya.......you seemed to think he was the only one who saw it that way.......he wasn't.


As to my "black rifles" that are worth more than 10 grand......look at my "handle" and think about it.......
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:18 PM
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I have a question for you folks that think that GG was wrong here.

You are stopped on the shoulder of a gravel road with your reasonably new truck, and you are glassing some antelope on public property.

1) A trucker rounds the corner and kicks up some stones that hit your truck;

2) Someone with a hot rod stops to see what you are up to, and when he leaves, he "burns out" kicking stones on your truck.

The results are the same, but the question is do you acknowledge that the "hot rodder" CAUSED this damage at least somewhat intentionally vs the trucker accidentally causing damage?

edge.
Absolutely.........but, since we can't read the mind of the black rifle guy that GG talks about, we can't know if he even realized what he was doing.....can we???? Now, if we know for certain that he was TRYING to spray GG's equipment, then he needs a butt kicking!!
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:46 PM
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I agree that those shooting something that throws brass SHOULD be very considerate as to where that brass is going.......go back and read my first post in this thread and you will find that I was stating an opinion that your post did, in fact, come across to me just as it had to Nonya.......you seemed to think he was the only one who saw it that way.......he wasn't.


As to my "black rifles" that are worth more than 10 grand......look at my "handle" and think about it.......

I'm very sorry for you if you see things the way that Nonya does. I wouldn't advertise it much!

Obviously, your moniker denotes what starts your engine. You have full auto guns. Good for you! I knew the minute you posted with a name like buzzgun, you were going to get fired up about my thread. But I don't care. I'm not here to make friends with that group of shooters just like they are usually not at the range to further precision accuracy or learn anything. They just like to hear their guns go off and that's fine. All I ask is to do it in a safe manner away from other's and their equipment. It sounds like that is not a problem for you and that is good.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:49 PM
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There were fewer rude people a few decades ago, because rude behavior was not tolerated and it was a good way to get your running lights punched out...

Watch Lonesome Dove, and Capt. Call's quote rang true in the day "rudeness in a man, just wont tolerate it". Capt. Call made that statement after justly and thoroughly kicking a rude mans Azz

Absolutely. Rudeness is one of the things that is lowering the overall quality of life everywhere.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:52 PM
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There ya go, once again you've fully explained yourself and your motives... I read just fine and understand completely.

You're right in your own mind. Everyone else, including GG, has it all wrong. buzzgun has it being GG's fault. GG should have given priority to the the other guys because according to buzzgun, he esposed an air of superiority simply due to the rifles and equipment he brought to the range. Never mind that GG never vocalized any statements about his equipment being higher class than their equipment. Secondly, and this tells us all we really need to know about buzzgun... if GG had only taken his rightful bench at the range, he wouldn't have brought these problems on himself and life would have been great. But possibly not so great for the next shooter to occupy the bench to the right of the disrespectful guys with the buzzguns. Which is what this thread was all about yet you choose to ignore that completely.

Comply with two buzzgun conditions; 1) bring weapons and equipment to the range that buzzgun finds acceptable and 2) select a bench that buzzgun finds acceptable, and then buzzgun is content and has no objections. Why not add a 3rd condition - don't use the gun range when the disrespectfuls show up. Just concede the range.

Are you nonya in disguise?

Provided you get to control other peoples lives, you sleep like a baby. When you can't, you cry like one.

No, I'm not Nonya, never met him, don't know anything about him......


I do know that you have a SERIOUS comprehension problem if you believe anything you posted in the quote above is related to anything I've posted on this thread......heck, you can't even seem to grasp the difference between an opinion and an attitude!!! Guess anyone who disagrees with you has a "bad attitude"??

Just to set the record straight:

I never suggested that GG should have "given priority to the the other guys".......

Second, simple fact is, if GG had set up to the far left, this problem would never have happened, if you can't see that, you are a fool.........that's not to say (and I NEVER claimed) that it was GG's fault, or that he should have to set up anywhere specific, or that GG brought the problem on himself, or that the black gun guys weren't being rude....or any of the other things you claim I said.......but the simple fact remains, if he had set up to the far left, none of this would have happened.......

Third, I never suggested any "conditions"........and you are just plain silly to suggest that I did or would........

Make no mistake, I've said it before and I'll say it again......the guy spraying GG with brass shouldn't have done it........maybe he knew he was doing it, maybe he didn't, but he was still wrong......I have never made excuses for their behavior or tried to justify it......


But, go ahead and dream up more stuff that I supposedly said........you seem to be good at it!!!
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:55 PM
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I used to really enjoy this site.
Me too! A lot of the helpful, knowledgeable, and experienced friendly people are gone or don't post anymore for fear of being ridiculed or having to put up with the bs. THankfully, there are still some of the people here that make it great.
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I was at the range one time last summer and had a similar experience. I got there and took one of the open benches that were available and started shooting. While I was shooting a couple of guys came and went on both sides of me. I was just concentrating on sending a round down range at a target and all of the sudden I got hit right in the side of the face, while I was in process of shooting, by a hot-hot piece of brass that got ejected from a guys gun that sat two benches to the left of me. It pizzed me off so badly I got up and gathered up all of my stuff and tore out of there like nobody's buisness. The bad thing was, I felt bad about it because of the way I reacted. I don't like getting hit in the face with anything, let alone a hot piece of brass and not to mention when I am in process of shooting. A little courtasy can go a long ways in keeping somewhat of a peaceful state at the range.
Yet another incident like mine. THanks for sharing it. It seems I'm not so up in the night about this subject.
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