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Unread 07-19-2008, 11:09 PM
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Black gun rant

Been off the site for awhile (been busier than a one-legged man at an arse kicking contest) but I need to start a new thread tonight and rant a little. Bear with me and if you have a "black gun", don't shoot me.

Ok, here's the scenario:
I'm at the local shooting range today and it's saturday so it's open to the public. I usually try to avoid the public days and just go when I'm the only one there but I'm so busy I had to go today. So anyhow, I'm hogging three benches on the leftish side of the range. I've got my own custom $3000 dollar rifle and $1000 rest setup one one bench along with $2000 worth of reloading gear, barrel coolers, powder throwers and other miscelaneous gear on one bench. Then I have a two clients rifles totaling $3000 or better set up on the other two benches. Now, I know it sounds piggish taking up three benches but there were 7 others that were empty off and on all day and even during the busiest hours, there was always at least one bench open. And I was working on all three at the same time waiting for barrels to cool so it wasn't like they were just sitting on the bench not being shot.

Ok, so I said I set up on the "leftish" side of the range. This means that there were two benches to my left and 5 open benches to my right. Well, I guess I should have set up on the farthest left bench because I came to find out that this was Black Saturday. Of the 20 some odd people that showed up to shoot today, more than half of them had AR15's. Of those 11 or 12 guys, 10 of them had to set up on the bench left of mine. Now, as you probably know, AR's fling brass out the right side. I take that back. They fling HOT AS HELL brass out the right side. And wouldn't you know, it never occurs to these black gun shooters what happens to the guy (and/or gear) to the right of them when they pull the trigger. Well, almost never. THere was one guy out of the 11 or 12 that took one look at my spread and set up right of me. The rest just kept flinging brass onto myself and gear until I finally had to request that they either get a brass catcher or move benches. They looked at me like I was from Mars. Brass catcher? What's that? Are you nuts? Can't you just deal with it? Well, no, I can't. Why should I? It's their responsibility to keep the range clean and the range safe just as much as mine. It's also common courtesy to be aware of your surroundings and fellow shooters on the range and not spit hot brass at them or their equipment. I had more coin on the benches with me than all their damn lead sprayers put together and it never occured to them that I might not want to have brass "tingging" off of any of it!

ANyways, after some edjumicating of the black gun enthusiasts, the rest of the day went ok as they found a new home on the right benches.

Now I have nothing against "black guns". I have shot many of them and know they have their place(it's on the right). I would even own one if I wasn't left handed and could stand to have my shooting finger hand so far down from the center of gravity. But I am and I can't so I don't have one. But IF I DID, I would spend the $20 to get a brass catcher and even then I would try to be on the right of other shooters even if all they had was a 10-22 and a Tasco spotting scope.

Ok, I'm done with the ranting. I just hope those of you here who own semi-autos take this to heart and be aware if you aren't already. Have a great day!
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Last edited by goodgrouper; 07-19-2008 at 11:19 PM.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 12:36 AM
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According to the English dictionary, the word inconsiderate means:

"careless of the rights or feelings of others"

You'll find folks like that everywhere. Thank goodness some of them realize their wrong and do the right thing. I'm glad that was your case. Diccionary also say the ranting means: to utter in a bombastic declamatory fashion. :eek: It has to be a relief and I guess it was good for you to do the ranting!

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to this generation and we once more are rejecting it as was prophesied!!!

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Unread 07-20-2008, 07:00 AM
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You are a lot politer than me.

I offered to kill the guy with an AK47 if one more piece hot commie brass landed on me. He moved his POS elsewhere. The Walter Mitty's of the world must see something different in the mirror than what I see. A pair of black fatigues, a Harley T-shirt and a earring don't really impress me.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 09:05 AM
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We live in the "it's all about me" society and they think that it is always someone elses responsiblity
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Unread 07-20-2008, 09:37 AM
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I hear ya cluckin GG! I find that more often than not the guys with those AR's who are flinging brass don't have the common sence to realize that their brass is going somewhere it shouldn't be. Ya cant' fix stupid! lol But, at the range I shoot at, most of them are very considerate. I'm a little lucky cuz I shoot at the range that is right behind DPMS Panther Arms, so there are many many black rifles there and most of the shooters really know what they are doing.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 11:00 AM
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Sounds like you could have move to another bench past the three you already had covered with $$$$$ and there wouldnt have been an issue.
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Unread 07-20-2008, 11:09 AM
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I've seen that sort of thing and also been irritated by them ,for some reason ''they'' do tend to gravitate towards the black rifles or ak's.

Two guys [looked like bums] came out to a public range about a year ago with an ar15 type rifle with the vertical handgrip in front.
Believe or not they had a couple of boxes of ''wolf ammo''.
Instead of waiting for the range to go 'cold' -they just walked out down the edge of the range about 25yds and started waiving their arms ,--waayyyy funny.
We shut it down for the two clowns -they got their targets up -got set up to shoot -one kept telling the other which target was his and to not shoot other peoples target.
By now i realized they were or had been drunk ,both had cigarettes hanging off their lip and finally fired a shot -one of them just sat there after the shot making a ghoulish drunk laugh for about 30 seconds.
I just sat there and laughed while watching them ,then i decided to look down range at their targets they were holdind about an 18" group at 100yds , and i noticed a couple of bullet holes in my target.
So to have a little fun -i aimed 1.5" low at 'their' bullseye and shot a five shot group on the ghoulish laughing guys target with my 22-250 -i'd guess it to have been a .6" group.You should have heard the laughing and carrying on when we went down to put up more targets -i complimented him on some awesome shooting...
He told his friend -it just took him a minute to get warmed up --sooo funny.

Another time at a range in georgia -three black clothes wearing- black gun shooting rambo wannabees were shooting rapid fire and hit a house right through the front door -the owner came to complain.
The range owner told them what they did and had caused him a lot of trouble [news team showed up immediately] .
-NO rapid fire shooting he told them then one of the rambos started mouthing off to the 60+ year old gunshop/range owner so i walked down and let him know it was time to shut his mouth.

This kind of stuff is common in the southeast..
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