Originally Posted by mtnwrunner
I'm not trying to diss goretex but I have not had much luck with it including boots. It seems to work alot better when it is new than after its been used a few times.
Not accusing you of dissing goretex. I have had both good and bad luck with goretex products as well.
A few years back at an elk camp I hunt at and guide at in New Mexico we had a couple of goretex guys who came and hunted with us a few times. One was one of their "scientists", and me being an engineer had to quiz him till he was sick of me I'm sure about how the stuff is made and how it works.
They told me their biggest problem was poor quality construction of the garments and boots. They tried to regulate that for a while and approve all products, but as other competing membranes came on to compete with them they relaxed that.
As a result, you can get some high end stuff that is really good, and some that is not. Same with low end, some is good, some not. It is not really the membrane (goretex) that is to blame, but the seams and stress points in the garment/boot.
I have several jackets that leak at the seams, some I got from those guys. They would show up at elk camp every year with a huge box of brand new returned jackets and pants and tell everyone to dig in. Supposedly they all were returned because of leaks. Some leaked some did not.......
I have worn Lowa goretex boots for many years and have been on many seriously wet weather hunts with them, from Alaska, to BC. They have never leaked on me and are 10+ years old with many miles. I have also had some cheap Rocky boots that leaked the first time I got them wet.
I'm not a shill for goretex, no relationship there. I just hated to see goretex beat up as as something that does not work. With the right garment construction it does work. How do you tell the difference before you buy? I don't know. Either buy the really good stuff, or buy the other from Cabela's or Bass Pro, get in the shower for 30 min and see if it leaks. If it does send it back.