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Bench technique for a unbraked RUM

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Unread 03-29-2006, 09:22 AM
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Re: Bench technique for a unbraked RUM

When I have shooters come to the shop to pick up there heavy recoiling rifles I generally take them out to the range and let them shoot them to see what they think. Most often I get a muzzle brake job out of them before they take the rifle home [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]!!

There are some things to be aware of when you shoot a heavy recoiling rifle off the bench. First off, the front swivel stud needs to stay clear of the front bag, this can and will effect shot placement everytime if the stud is hanging up on the front bag.

What stock you have on the rifle also will effect how it shoots off the bags. Most Savage stocks are not overly strong in the forend. If you grab the forend of the rifle with a death grip, most often you are pulling the rifle down into the bags, this is not what you want. THis will do a couple things to greatly effect accuracy.

First thing it does is tighten up your arm and shoulder muscles, tight muscles are much more likely to flinch then relaxed muscles.

Second, If you are pulling the stock down into the bags with your off hand, you are preloading the stock. This will effect the bedding of the rifle in a synthetic Savage stock and will effect consistancy. This will also cause alot more vertical jump in the rifle because in most cases, shooters are not strong enough to restrain the rifle by pulling it down, the forend will slip in the off hand and you will get a slap of the barrel by the stock. The jump is often exaggerated by this.

The best shooting technique I have found for heavy recoiling rifls is as follows:

1. It is critical to have solid, SQUARE shoulder contact to the rifle. If your shoulder is not square to the recoil pad, a heavy recoiling rifle will slip on your shoulder. This will add to the toquing you feel when the rifle recoils. Imagine using your shoulder to hold something up against the wall. This is what you want, a solid, square, lean into the rifle shooting position.

2. The off hand should grip the stock, NOT BARREL IN ANY WAY, grip the forend of the stock ahead of the receiver whereever it feel comfortable for the shooter. DO NOT PULL DOWN ON THE FOREND. Imagine a straight line running down the bore, through the receiver, through the buttstock of the rifle and into your shoulder. We need to keep this line square to your shoulder. We also need to keep the force applied by the off hand in this same direction to prevent stock preloading and bounce off the bags. Pull the stock straight back into your shoulder along that imaginary line through the rifle. You do not need to strangle the rifle. Just firm pressure squarely back against the shoulder. In fact, your shoulder leaning into the rifle should apply most of this force.

3. The trigger hand is not as critical but it can cause fliers. I recommend firm contact with the stock but not strained. You should leave your shooting hand relatively relaxed with only a slightly firm grip on the stock. There should really not be alot of force on the stock by the shooting hand. The function of this hand it to work the bolt and trip the trigger, not stearing the rifle. That is done by the shoulder and off hand.

4. Trigger pull is also critical on a heacy recoiling rifle. Just like the offhand, imagine that same straight line down the rifle into your shoulder, pull the trigger in the same direction as this line. Do not wrap your finger around the trigger and pull it to one side of the other. Put your first digit of your finger on the trigger and pull STRAIGHT back.

5. Finally, let the rifle do what it will. Do not think you will control the rifle, you will not!! It will recoil every time and do what it wants every time. Your job is simply to control it and make that recoil consistant from shot to shot. The most difficult thing is blocking the recoil out of your mind but that is what needs to be done. If you have a flinch this may be nearly impossible to do and your best and really only good options will be either a brake of a smaller, lower recoiling round.

Just as important as anything, do not over shoot your heavy recoiling rifles. They will wear you down quickly, anyone!! Shoot then several times to keep you mentally trained on the recoil but do not overshoot them to start a flinch because it WILL happen eventually.

Hope this helps some.

Kirby Allen(50)
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Unread 03-29-2006, 09:57 AM
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Re: Bench technique for a unbraked RUM

I would echo everything kirby just said, actually I think I am gonna take some of that advice myself. I would tell ya to get a Holland QD brake. I have used a few different types and the holland is by far and above the best. It is a very slim design and is not ported on the botttom so you can shoot it prone on the dirt without getting a dirt shower each shot. I would imagine they would reduce your gun down to kicking like a varmint wieght .308 win, or less.

My grandfather is a world famous trap shooter/sporting clays shooter. He told me that at one point in time in his career he developed a flinch due to shooting heavier dram 1 1/8 oz shells. This flinched affected him so bad that after losing several tournaments he decided to go to a release trigger.

I developed a similiar problem with archery several years ago. After having good success with compound bows i decided to try instinctive shooting. I bought a nice longbow and spent about 1/2 a year learning to shoot this stick. All I got out of it was a sore damn wrist and a problem snap shooting that I took back into shooting compound bows.

The amazing thing is that problems like these you know they are in your head but it can be SO DANG HARD to get over them.

Follow up with what FiftyDriver told you and if you are still spraying snot every time you trip the trigger put a brake on that bad boy

good luck
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Unread 03-29-2006, 10:42 AM
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Re: Bench technique for a unbraked RUM

My 300 RUM is a remington LSS and is not braked. I weigh 135 lbs and can shoot it just fine off a bench. I have put over 1000 rounds down it now and still no muzzle brake. The kick has little to do with accuracy in my opinion, I think you need to work on load development. I have shot 4" groups with mine at 800 yards off the bench with 200g SMK's. So I dont think thats your problem. I hold it tight into my shoulder and squeeze the trigger. You cant be scared of the rifle, yah its going to kick you, but it aint going to kill you. Thats always been my way of thinking. Some people can shoot big guns w/out a brake, but most cant. I"m just lucky that I'm not one of them. Its a good thing, cuz its just another $200 piece of equipment thats not really neccesary if you can handle it.
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