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Old 08-30-2013, 09:41 AM
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:16 AM
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Re: Your pick 7mm

Personally I'd run a 7stw
Defiance action
If its a walking rifle then a #4 if its a sit and watch rifle a sendero contour Krieger 9t
Hs precision stock
Topped with night force rings and a 5.5-22nxs with my preference is the npr2
Jewel trigger
I use the 162 Amax out of my stw with great results on both elk and deer
Probably would run a 26in barrel on a walking rifle and 28 on a sit and watch rifle
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Old 08-30-2013, 10:51 AM
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Once again I am not talking about your rifle creation. I have never seen it so how can I doubt it? But again the above quote is what I would like you to back up with factual data.

It is these kind of statements from you that so often I do not agree with and would like you to confirm it.

So again I will ask. What is your load in a factory 7mm REM that you talked about in your quoted statement above with a 180 that will go 3100 fps, and will "out pound" a factory chambered 300 win with a 215 Berger at 3K plus?

The 215 / 300 win load has been duplicated many times on this board by more than a few members. I have worked with some of these rifle too. So I know my personal rig is not a fluke. I have a couple high quality chrono's to test with and have confirmed drops. Now can you support what you stated earlier?

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Jeff I believe you do shoot some and probably reload. You want to argue and I am not about that and wont render this forum to that. I stipulated the loads earlier and you call what I build HOT RODS to justify your intellect to others on this forum. I believe they are not hot rods but modified from factory form to shoot better. That the object of all gun builders, Powder manufactures and bullet manufactures. Do You call all new products hot rods just because they are not what you do or use? Anyone that understands Sectional Density, Ballistic Coefficient AND FORM FACTOR will agree the 284 diameter will out fly the 308 diameter with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS. Facts are facts. Any other readers of this Please call Berger or Nosler and discuss this with the pros that KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:46 PM
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Could you please support these statements with some facts from your personal experience?

I have never gotten a 7 Rem to 3100 with a 180 and would like to know what you used to do so.

Also, what load (bullet weight , powder and muzzle velocity and distance) will "out pound" a 300 win with a 215 Berger loaded to 3035 fps with H-1000. I have seen 3050 across an Oehler 35 and Magneto speed and my drops are on to a mile and all between, with my data. So I would like to ask you to support with facts. I have seen you post this info several times so I would like to see how this works, and to what distance it holds water, if it does.

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I sorta agree with Jeff. I think maybe people are a little stuck in the past back before the super efficient .30 cal VLD's in assuming a 7mm bor Diameter has magic properties. I got my 208GR Amax to 2950 shouting 1/3 MOA groups and validated that data out to 1400 yards. That is pretty bad medicine on just about anything that walk the earth even at 1K Never had an Amax come apart on me. You would have to push a 180 GR pretty darn fast to out power the listed load above at 800 yards.

Given only the choice of 7mm I would go 7mm-08 and limit shot to within 600 yards on game but that's just me.
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Personally I'd run a 7stw
Defiance action
If its a walking rifle then a #4 if its a sit and watch rifle a sendero contour Krieger 9t
Hs precision stock
Topped with night force rings and a 5.5-22nxs with my preference is the npr2
Jewel trigger
I use the 162 Amax out of my stw with great results on both elk and deer
Probably would run a 26in barrel on a walking rifle and 28 on a sit and watch rifle
Good point,
do you want want to carry the thing over hills and drive and sit.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:44 PM
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Jeff I believe you do shoot some and probably reload. You want to argue and I am not about that and wont render this forum to that. I stipulated the loads earlier and you call what I build HOT RODS to justify your intellect to others on this forum. I believe they are not hot rods but modified from factory form to shoot better. That the object of all gun builders, Powder manufactures and bullet manufactures. Do You call all new products hot rods just because they are not what you do or use? Anyone that understands Sectional Density, Ballistic Coefficient AND FORM FACTOR will agree the 284 diameter will out fly the 308 diameter with VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS. Facts are facts. Any other readers of this Please call Berger or Nosler and discuss this with the pros that KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
No, I am not wanting to argue. You stated, and I quote you again

"I can tell you the 7mm Rem is hard to beat. Some loading books have it loaded down to 7-08 velocities and you can work 180 gr loads up to almost 3100. It can be downloaded to be great for a small child or loaded up to out pound a 300 win mag."

You said that a 7 REM can be loaded to "out pound a 300 win mag" I simply want you to support this statement with what you use for bullet weight, powder and charge weight in a 7 mm Rem to " OUT POUND" a 300 win and at what distance you get this?

Is it wrong to question a post when you do not agree with it?

Would it have been better to just call BS. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt and asked for clarification.

I am not talking about any modified 7mm or modified 300. I know what they are both capable of. What I don't know is how you get a 7 REM to "out pound" a 300 win.

Again please don't take this a stray to modified 7's and 30's, in the post I quoted, you were not talking about modified rifles or cases. You stated 7 Rem. I don't know how I can make it any clearer.

If you "mis spoke" like some of the politician's do at times then simply say I was wrong and go on. But please stop alluding the simple question with curve balls about me picking on you, or straying this into a 7 / 30 debate. I am not putting down the 7's. Many here know I have built quite a few and that I happen to like 7's and know what they are capable of.

So, once again sir, what is your 7mm rem load that will "out Pound" a 300 win.

Thank you.
Jeff
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