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Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

 
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Old 05-15-2013, 01:13 PM
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Re: Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

The Winchester should be able to get under 1 moa. Have you checked the float , bedding , ect. Any of the makes can let a lemon out the door but the new Winchesters are well made.
Remington quality control has become a bad joke in the last few years. You could get a decent rifle but there is a good chance you could get a train wreck of a rifle also.
My guess would be check the bed , barrel float , and trigger. Then either have someone watch you or better , set up a video camera to record your shooting. That is a mule kicking rifle without a break and it wouldn't suprise me a bit you have developed a flinch you are unaware of.
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Old 05-15-2013, 02:26 PM
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Re: Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

get the remington . quickly.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:06 PM
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Re: Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

The rifle is brand new. I had a gunsmith check over the rifle. The barrel is free floated and the receiver is bedded OK. He found that the barrel was slightly oversized. It is .309 and it should be .308. Plus the barrel is tighter at the breach end than at the muzzle end. Everything else checked out fine. I talked to Winchester and the bore is within their specs (.308 plus or minus .002), so they wouldn't do anything. I'm shooting off of sand bags and its a surprise when it goes "boom", so I don't think I'm flinching. I had a friend shoot it and he got similar results. He supposedly can shoot the cap off of a plastic bottle at 300 yards with his 25-06.
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Old 05-15-2013, 04:31 PM
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Re: Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

Sounds like you have done the basics. It may take a lot of loading to find something it likes or sell it and try to find another rifle. If you sell it and get something else I would recommend buying a custom from one of the smiths on here or rework the winchester. I've come to the conclusion it is cheaper to buy a custom in the long run. I don't believe you are any more likely to get a good Remington. From the box I would look to a Savage or a Tikka . I believe if you work at it you will find a powder , bullet , and seating depth combination that will work but it may take more time and money than you have to put into it. I have a Remington 700 I hate but don't sell because I have so much time and money invested . I can't bear to walk away. All my future rifles will start with a used rifle for a donor action and have exactly what I want built with quality parts. For $1600 to $2000 I can have a rifle that I know will shoot instead of $1000 for a "quality" factory rifle I will end up spending another $500 to a $1000 to get shooting.
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Re: Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

The Mod 70 is pretty well known to be a good action, you could just rebarrel it and have a smith true everything up. You might be in it another $500-600, but it should be a shooter.
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Old 05-15-2013, 05:07 PM
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Re: Wnchester 70 vs Remington 700 XCR tactical long range

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The Mod 70 is pretty well known to be a good action, you could just rebarrel it and have a smith true everything up. You might be in it another $500-600, but it should be a shooter.
Thats what I was getting at. You already have the action and an ok stock. An action face and lugg true is @$150 and another $150 -$200 to install a short chambered and threaded barrel. The barrel will run $300 to $500. Might pay a little less or a little more but you will have a rifle you can believe in.
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good gunsmith???

I've talked to a gunsmith in Kansas City, but he can't put on a new barrel for a year. I need an ACCURATE rifle this summer to practice and work up a hand load before this fall's elk hunt. He can lap the barrel which he says will improve the accuracy, but he doesn't know how much of an improvement.
Can anyone recommend a good gunsmith who could put on a new barrel in a month or two???
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