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Why not lazzeroni rifles?

 
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:45 AM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

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Old 10-05-2013, 02:01 AM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

Thank you all very much for your support ,,,,,,
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Old 10-09-2013, 11:33 PM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

Dan ,,,,,,,

it is the same with the heavy bullets ,,,,,,, my gosh ,,,,,,,

take a look at this ballistics chart http://www.lazzeroni.com/ct_lacart.htm ,,,,,,,,,,

are you looking to purchase a Lazzeroni rifle or are you planning to overload the 300 RUM to try and match the Lazzeroni Warbird like some others on this board ? ,,,,,,,,
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:04 AM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

I have looked at your rifles and they are nice guns, I am in the market just not right away.

I know you got the velocity, I looked at your chart but IMHO where its at now is bucking the wind, again JMHO. You gotta start pushin them heavier pills. Yeah youll lose some velocity but long range has come along way with technoligy..........As im sure you know.

My ultra is running just fine at a modest 3007 fps with the berger 210. There was another node at 3120 but just beat up on my brass to much. I dont care about velocity. Thanks for askin. No Im not tryin to match anybodys specs.

I want to buck the wind you get that with heavy high bc bullets
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:39 AM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

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Ethan Parke........roped the deer in 1953. Put tags in his ears turned him loose then shot him in 1955. Always liked this pic
The story was told to me by his wife who owned the little motel we stayed at on a deer hunt in Malta Idaho about 17 years ago...... Youll never see that again. Just a cool pic of Idaho deer huntin history

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Old 10-10-2013, 12:41 AM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

Hmmm, just lookin at your chart again your 190 vld in the warbird@ 3425 has 47.8 inches of drift at 1000 yards.

My lowley ole ultra with the 210 berger at 3007fps only drifts 42 inches at 1000.........my gosh.........

Stretch that out a little more and ya have, "newton" an object in motion will remain in motion, the heavier the better bulletwise..........

Again JMHO.

Im sure its possible I may be missing something here.........
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Old 10-10-2013, 11:22 AM
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Re: Why not lazzeroni rifles?

Idaho Redneck ,,,,,,,

I don't happen to be of the school that wind drift numbers are everything, although knowing what they are at long range is vitally important, as is trajectory ,,,,

I also don't like bullets that are too heavy for the caliber chosen ,,,, they tend to be inefficient for the caliber ,,,,,, and it becomes harder and harder to drive them fast and still maintain accuracy ,,,,,

even with all of the expertise on this board, there may be only a handful of shooters here that can go into the field with a hunting rifle that you can carry (without wheels attached) and place the FIRST shot out of a cold barrel into the chest cavity of a deer, at 1,000+ yards, 9 out of 10 times ,,,, in actual field conditions ,,,,,

but if windrift numbers are your game, and you want to also get to the 1,000 mark with enough energy to knock the hell out of an elk or moose sized animal ,,,, it is simple ,,,,,,

purchase a Lazz rifle in the 8.59 (.338) Titan or 9.53 (.375) Saturn caliber ,,,,,

for the Lazz Titan, seat a 250gr Sierra SPBT Gameking up against the barrel lands, pour in enough IMR-7828 to get it up to 3,100fps, Federal 215 primer ,,, pressure will be right at about 66,000PSI Maximum average lot mean ,,,, and this load will easily hold minute of angle 3 shot groups to 1,000 yards ,,,,,,,

for the Lazz Saturn, seat a 300gr Sierra SPBT Gameking up against the barrel lands, pour in enough reloader 19 to get it up to 3,000fps, Federal 215 primer ,,, pressure will be right at about 66,000PSI Maximum average lot mean ,,,, and this load will easily hold minute of angle 3 shot groups to 1,000 yards ,,,,,,,

either cartridge when loaded, will easily fit 3 down in the mag box of the Lazz rifle, and feed and cycle properly as needed ,,,,,,,,

so run the windrift and energy numbers on those ,,,, see what you get, and compare to anything else out there ,,,,,,,

the ONLY other piece of brass available in the market place today that will fit into a carryable bolt action hunting rifle, and run with the Lazzeroni, is the 378 WBY brass ,,,,, and the same performance can be achieved with it, "with" the correct chamber/throat design ,,,,,, (stock WBY chambers are NOT correct for this type of loading and shooting)))

these are undisputable facts and part of the Lazzeroni record ,,,,,

the RUM simply does NOT have enough case capacity to achieve the performance of the Lazzeroni's, regardless of who overloads it for bragging rights ,,,,,
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