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Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

 
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:37 PM
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Re: Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

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The difference between the lightest rifles and a 12 lb rig is probably 4 or 5 lbs. I guess before I worry about the extra 5 lbs of the rifle I should worry more about the 15 or 20 lbs I need to loose.
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This is the only thing that ever need mentioned when people complain about a rifle being too heavy.
People are willing to train with their equipment to become a better shot, but aren't willing to train their body to maximize their effectiveness with the equipment they have.

That's backwards.
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Old 07-06-2013, 02:02 PM
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Re: Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

Hot dang....I love guys like you! I find a nice over-view and plop down on my azz and let you guys with running shoes spook the game over me! Been working good for me for 50 years! Now...be sure to eat ya wheaties cuz I want ya to have plenty of get up and go come hunting season!!
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:10 PM
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Re: Weight in pack versus weight in arms

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I don't really see the pack weight and the rifle weight in the same conversation. For the most part, pack weight on on the hips/legs and shoulders. Your rifle is hanging off the end of your arm. Unless your walking up and down trails or ridge tops in a fully upright position, your rifle arm is constantly being extended, flexed and manipulated to provide balance. Terrain and soil/substrate is a huge factor. Steep hills with loose footing will have you waving your gun hand around like a flag at a 4th of July parade. A nose heavy rifle always wants to dip into the ground when climbing straight up and loose or slick footing makes that worse and harder to protect the rifle. Grip pressure is constant and heavier requires more grip, all day long. Whether you are aware of it or not, you rifle hand is constantly making adjustments and 3 or 4 extra pounds on the end of your arm is huge.

I like to keep my rigs between 8.5 and 9.5 lbs.
Exactly. We must be the weird ones. Can't believe others haven't expressed this difference between carrying a rifle in an arm versus weight carried within a well balanced backpack. If my rifle weight was inside my backpack, the extra weight wouldn't be as big a deal. Carried with my arms, 9 lbs versus 12 lbs is a difference I won't tolerate. I try to carry my rifles in a Kifaru gun bearer harness attached to my backpack when feasible, like when hiking in the open areas. But there's a lot of vegetated terrain covered such that this isn't always possible where I hunt.

My hunting is primarily backpack hunting, traveled by walking. Not riding an ATV.
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:40 PM
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Re: Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

Most of my hunting is back pack mountain climbing as well. As it is, my packs going in are anywhere from 50-60# depending on how long I'm going and what the size of the game is, sometimes more. Adding 10-15# to my pack is very noticeable and past my comfort zone. Coming out my packs might be 100-125# but its a mental thing. Packing trophies out makes the pain more acceptable! its usually down hill as well. granted down hill is harder on the knees with heavy loads, it's still easier. I don't carry my rifles in my back pack. I carry them by hand. Used as a walking stick. It gets swung all day. To me the difference between 11# and 12# is the difference between comfortable and uncomfortable. I find that what gets the most sore is the elbow. I've had tennis elbow from packing 12# plus rifles. Never with 11. My 6.5 is just under 10.5# without anything in the magazine. A tad over with ammo. It is very comfortable and pleasant for me to carry. I'm approaching 40 and maybe in 10 years 10.5# might be uncomfortable but for now it's good. I'll always have rifles as heavy as I am comfortable carrying. They move less in higher winds or on softer ground.
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Re: Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

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I'm approaching 40 and maybe in 10 years 10.5# might be uncomfortable but for now it's good. I'll always have rifles as heavy as I am comfortable carrying. They move less in higher winds or on softer ground.
I carried a 12.5 lb rifle 6 miles in, then up and down a mountain twice, on a Mt. Goat hunt near Seward when I was 37. It was survivable but it tended to take the fun out of the hunt, even though I came out with a nice Billy. Since then I've never backpacked any distance with a rifle that weighed more than 11 lbs all decked out. I'm 58 now, and I refuse to go over 10 lbs if there's much packing involved. My preference at 58 is nothing more than about 9.5 - 10 lbs.

At this rate, I'll have to stop backpack hunting when I'm 68, unless someone packs both my rifle and me in and out . . .
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Re: Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

My plan is to build heavier rifles and pack less and shoot farther as I get older. But I will probably need help packing the meat out..

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Re: Why does my long range rifle have to weight 12lbs +?

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My plan is to build heavier rifles and pack less and shoot farther as I get older. But I will probably need help packing the meat out..

jeff
My predicament is I may already be 'older' . . .
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