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Who is using the Barnes Triple Shocks? / Like them?

 
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Old 02-01-2005, 06:31 PM
 
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Who is using the Barnes Triple Shocks? / Like them?

I tried some Barnes bullets a couple years ago and hated them , was a pain in the but to get to shoot well and fouled real bad. I've heard that the new Tripple shocks arn't that way , any body have any good or bad reports on them?
I'll probably end up Moly coating them anyhow if they don't have the same seating problems that the XBT have
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:02 PM
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Re: Who is using the Barnes Triple Shocks? / Like them?

J.Jones,

I had two customers develope loads in rifles I built for them this summer chambered in the 257 STW using the 115 gr TSX.

I tried the standard X bullets and even the XLC bullets and never did like them because they just were not as consistant in accuracy as I wanted and seating depth was so critical.

From the groups my customers have sent me using the new TSX, this does not seem to be the case. They still should be seated at least 0.030" off the rifling but in those two rifles they were producing sub 1/2 moa groups consistantly and at +3600 fps as well.

One of the rifles shot them very well cutting 1/4 moa groups quite often. Course both these Lilja barreled rifles were total custom rifles built on accurized Rem 700 receivers and shot every bullet from the 100 gr Ballistic Tip up to the 130 gr Wildcat BCFBHP into 1/2 mao class groups.

I will say that they do seem to be much less finicky compared to the standard X bullets and velocity is more inline with conventional bullets of similiar weight.

Try a box and see, thats really the only way to know. Personally, I prefer a leaded bullet over any solid designed bullet, but that is my personal preference only.

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J.Jones,
FiftyDriver is right on.I have been shooting the TSX from my .300 Win.Mag.since they were introduced.I had heard all of the horror stories about Barnes bullets,but I was to new to serious shooting and reloading to pay much attention.Since trying the TSX I have found no fouling problems,excellent accuracy(for me):average groups (3) in the .5's and velocity the same as other bullets.
I killed two deer this year,both under a feeder at 212 yds.and neither knew what hit them!Only thing that the bullet doesn't do is put a big hole in them.Very small entrance wound (i.e.hard to find)and exit wound nickle size,with everything between just jelly!Try a box like FiftyDriver says.I seat my loads .030 off.I am loading 82grs.H-1000,168gr.TSX @ 3200fps.Hope this gives you some insight.
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Old 02-01-2005, 11:51 PM
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I've used Barnes X bullets since they first came out. The new TSX have solved all of their prior problems of accuracy and fouling. You still need to start at .050 off the lands. You can go down to .030, but pressure will rise slightly. Depending on your throat and barrel, I have friends that get best groups at .100+. Every barrel is unique. Once you find your sweet spot, TSX are hard to beat on game. They almost always exit, games usually falls over in one shot if you place it correctly. Good luck. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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I have several friends who work at Barnes and I can honestly tell you from the tests they have shown me that the Triple shocks are WAAAAAYY better than the XLC's. They use bullets testers not available to civilians to test every possible measurement of a bullet, and the Triples are literally about 300% more consisitent than previous bullets. The triple shock might just save Barnes if a majority of their sales are for "average" hunters. I say average hunters because they are NOT for Long Range Hunters! I repeat, Barnes are NOT for Long Range Hunters! These bullets are still solid copper with petals that just love to shear off at the very sight of bone and sinew, and that is if they petal (mushroom) at all. Remember, a bullet sheds impact velocity the farther out it hits flesh. Therefore, a Barnes that has slowed down to around 1800 fps will not open up reliably and it will act more like a full metal jacket. If one is to use Barnes for hunting, he should shoot the fastest gun he can shoulder and try to shoot animals at close range in the heart/lung area. This is the only way to make them open up reliably, and not shear petals. I prefer shooting all animals in the high shoulder blade or spine, and this is not a good shot for a Barnes. One would think it would be the shot of choice with a stout bullet like the Barnes, but the way they petal is actually prone to shear itself right off the shank!
I wish I could bring myself to shoot Barnes bullets again, as I could get them for a great deal, but I like long range hunting too much to get screwed shooting Barnes at anything again! Who wants to limit their hot rod hunting gun to just 3 football fields? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Get yourself a box of Scirrocos or Accubonds and live happily ever after. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Who is using the Barnes Triple Shocks? / Like them?

Goodgrouper, I have made shots at way more than 300 yds with great results with the X bullet. As the velocity drops off, the petals should open and have a tendency to stay on unless heavy bone is impacted. My friends have not had problems. Are your contacts at Barnes saying that the TSX has the problems you're describing, or all Xs? Your input is not consistent with the over 20 head of deer & elk that I have observed. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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I was planning to shoot the 130gr bullets out of a 30-06 and 308 that are used to hunting in timber , max rangewould be 200yds and the loads would be as fast as accurately possible.
It is a toss up between these or the Nosler accubond as I hear that they came out with a 150gr bullet
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