where do you draw the line?

[davkrat]

Personally once you start having to dial for elevation or significant wind hold offs I think it's long range. Most flat shooting rifles like a .270 or 7mm can hold point blank out to what 275-300 yards. To the average hunter 300-350 yards is out of the question. Personally for me shooting at deer and pig sized animals long range is anything beyond 400 yards and I personally would not take a shot past 600. Now if I were shooting at elk I could see pushing that as you have much more margin for error with the larger kill zone and hopefully would be shooting a substantial bullet.cartridge at those ranges not your run of the mill deer rifle with 150+/- grain bullets.