Originally Posted by Max Heat
I most certainly agree, that the 1894 model win lever-action that today's model is STILL based on, IS what has kept the 30-30 in play, as one of the highest-selling center-fire rifle cartridges out there. Not only is it much smallar than average for .30 cal rounds, it is even 25% smaller than carbine rounds (7.62 x 30 vs. 7.62 x 39, right?). But hey, at least for a kid's first year dear hunting, it does beat the 12 gauge slugger.
Anyways, with this being a "magnum" thread, I am surprised that no one has yet mentioned the infamous "do I feel lucky?" line that, for all intents and purposes, did give the word an entirely "new" meaning. It catapulted sales of magnum firearms (mostly the .44 revolver, obviously) to new levels. But I think that recently, sales of mags must have been slipping, prompting the introduction of the .500 "magnum" revolver. And probably also the ultramag, for rifles. Indisputably I would say, that DOES take "magnum" to the next higher level, of "meaning".
30 (cal)-- 30 (grains powder) aka the 30 wcf or 30-30 win
30 (cal)--40 (grains powder)-- 220 (grain bullet)-- aka the 30-40 krag
the US cartridges of that era are usually cal, powder weight, and/or bullet weight with some using year of introduction like the 30-06 springfield
They've got to put more toys out to keep gun sales going--if the '06 and 270 were the only show the average guy could afford like they were in '25, they wouldn't be selling anywhere the guns they are. A side benefit of getting taken by all the nice shiny new options is some actually ARE better than the older choices out there.
I don't mind a good revolver-- I've got a super red-hawk 44 that will knock out a clay bird off-hand every time at 100 yards with select lead bullet hand-loads using blade sights.