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What caused my barrel to break loose?

 
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:12 PM
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What caused my barrel to break loose?

Well, if it wasn't for bad luck.......


I took my 9 year old son to the woods for a little peace and quiet, and hopefully his first deer. I had with me my Savage 7RM with Accustock and McGowan barrel. (Had this put together by a gunsmith last year.) I had my gun on a sling and was carrying my son's Rem 700 in .243 for him to get to our hunting position.

As I was getting my rifle ready I thought I noticed that the forearm of the stock seemed a little weaker. I didn't really think much about it at the time. Just thought I was over analyzing.

We get to where we were going and we had sat there for a couple of hours. Just happened to grab my barrel and move the gun a little bit as I shifted my position. When I did the whole darn barrel turned!!!!!!

I have no doubt that I could spin the whole barrel off of the action. When I mentioned that I moved my gun by the barrel, I'm not talking about grabbing it in a death grip with both hands and exerting any undue force. I mean I just used the barrel to cant the rifle in my lap!!!!! The only thing that kept me from letting some really choice words fly was the pair of innocent nine year old ears at my side.

I spun the barrel a couple of revolutions just out of shear amazement and noticed that the stock got progressively loose. I would have thought that the barrel could have been completely unscrewed and the stock would have not loosened in this scenario.


Ok. I have a couple of questions:

1) How/why did that happen? I haven't been torquing the barrel in any way. The only time I grab the rifle by the barrel is to store it in the safe and to remove it from the safe.

2) Why did the stock get "loose" from unscrewing the barrel?

3) I know that the stock will have to be removed to torque down the barrel nut. Question is, am I going to have to remove the Nightforce as well?

It sounds like I am about to have to start from scratch here. I can't imagine that the headspace could possibly be set back to exactly the same, so I anticipate all of my measurements for my fired cartridges are now down the crapper.

4) When rebarreling a rifle, doesn't a gunsmith usually put some sort of thread locker on it to prevent this?


Any insight whatsoever would be greatly appreciated.
I guess I'm going to have to break out the old 30-06 out of the safe that I haven't even shot in nearly two years, cause it looks like my favorite rifle is out of commission for the rest of the hunting season.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:16 PM
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Re: What caused my barrel to break loose?

Your choice of gun smiths caused the barrel to come loose. I only own one savage but the barrel has never come loose.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: What caused my barrel to break loose?

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Your choice of gun smiths caused the barrel to come loose. I only own one savage but the barrel has never come loose.
What did he do wrong?
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:28 PM
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Re: What caused my barrel to break loose?

If the barrel has any markings you should be able to headspace it back near exact if
you can remember them. (still use gauges) Time for a new gunsmith maybe.
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What did he do wrong?
I dont mean to sound like an ass here but he didnt tighten it. I would take it back to him and tell him to fix it. Seriously you or your son could have been hurt or at the extream end killed.

I have the utmost confidence in Kevin Cram at montour county rifles he has done quite a bit of work for me. He works on Savage if your not interested in returning the rifle to the smith that did the work I would suggest Kevin.
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I dont mean to sound like an ass here but he didnt tighten it. I would take it back to him and tell him to fix it. Seriously you or your son could have been hurt or at the extream end killed.
Exactly my thoughts. I don't take what you said offensively at all. I just have never rebarreled a gun myself and didn't know what might have been involved that could have been less obvious. I don't know if I want this guy touching my stuff again, so I will have to sleep on the idea of taking it back to him.

It seems like a very simple issue that should have never happened in the first place.

Makes me wonder if that's why my groups have been opening up lately!!!!!!!
It was a tack driver when I first started shooting with it. Now I do good to keep it to MOA.

I'm just glad I found out now before the barrel was turned to the point of making an extreme excessive headspace situation and I got a Savage bolt put through my brain!!
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:38 PM
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Re: What caused my barrel to break loose?

But hay I could be wrong maybe some other guys have had this same thing happen. I have just never heard of it before.
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