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What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

 
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:24 PM
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What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

Do I "need" one? Saw a nice-looking used VLS in a store. Or should I stick with the .243 as I planned? Would be used mostly for longer-range groundhogs. Thanks.
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:40 PM
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Re: What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

I think it's "dead" for all the wrong reasons. It never got a fair chance to begin with, because remington supposedly put the wrong twist rate in the first runs of factory rifles. By time they noticed their error, the 243 had gained a loyal following.

Most savy long range PD shooters I know, would take a 6MM over a 243 any day. Their reasoning is that the necks are too short on 243 and the throats last longer on a 6mm. Not to mention, the 6mm is just a tad faster. I've heard that powder fouling is also worse in a 243. Only downside I know of for the 6mm is that it takes a longer action, but if you want to shoot long VLD type bullets, you should really use a long action anyway IMO. One other possible downside would be that the brass isn't that common, and stuff for 243 is easier to get.

On the rifle in question, you might check into the twist rate and make sure it's suitable for the bullets you want to shoot.

Again, most of the long time varmint shooters that I've known really prefer the 6mm.
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Old 05-22-2011, 04:53 PM
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Re: What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

The 6mm Rem is far from dead. I like to describe it like this. It's like a 243 but a lot more of it. Other than brass selection (no Lapua) It does everything I ever wanted out of a 6mm. It reallly shines when it is improved.
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Old 05-23-2011, 08:31 AM
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Re: What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

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The 6mm Rem is far from dead. I like to describe it like this. It's like a 243 but a lot more of it. Other than brass selection (no Lapua) It does everything I ever wanted out of a 6mm. It reallly shines when it is improved.

^^^+1 here, I shoot the 6mmAI, I did go with a 1-12 twist on mine (doh!), but I've been able to shoot several 100yd groups <.400 with 85grn bullets @ 3500 (a little moderate). I have been shooting this for nearly a decade (first semi-custom), I am really happy with this caliber. I also agree with the above mentioned that if you do want to shoot the long bullets grab a LA or you'll be single loading.

When it's all said & done, when I finally shoot out the barrel on this 6mm you can bet your shorts there will be another 6mm (fast twist) screwed right back onto it.
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Re: What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

The 6mm Rem is a fine cartridge and as SBruce said the twist rate was wrong for the bullets
that were loaded at the time.

They do well with a 1 in 10 twist, and are a good cartridge to wildcat.

The 6mm AI and the 224/ 6mm (Texas trophy Hunter) are some of the more successful
ones.

Some have necked them up to 25 cal and love them.

So if it has a 1 in 10 twist or faster It will be an upgrade from the 243 in my opinion.

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Old 05-23-2011, 10:24 AM
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Re: What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

I'm in the group that says the .243 Winchester is just a passing fad that soon educates folks on how not design case. The Remington VLS is too short for the 6mm remington unless it's a long action. In a Savage it would work just fine as they are a little bit longer. But the Remington used as a single shot would work just fine. The Remington's magazine is too short for even a .243 when using long bullets. There as been much written about the twist rate in the .244 and the 6mm verses the .243. 88% of it is crap! If your shooting PD's and coyotes, your gonna use something lighter than 87 grains most of the time, and a 1:10 (and maybe a 1:11) twist will work just fine. But if your shooting 70 grain bullets the 1:9 twist will actually cause your groups to open up (a .0001" error in the C/G will usually displace .09" @ 100 yards). You'd be much better off with a 1:12 twist
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Old 05-23-2011, 03:14 PM
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Re: What About The "Dead" 6mm Remington?

as mentioned by some of the others the 6 rem is under appreciated.

I have been having an itch to build one in the ackley version for a long distance coyote thumper...
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