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Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

 
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Old 01-19-2010, 08:02 PM
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Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

I'm currently shooting a stock Savage 16FLHSS in .22-250 Rem. Its my carry gun for Coyotes. Calling doesn't work well in my area so most of my shooting envolves walking and spotting. My gun now works well out to 450yrds or so. I'm shooting 55grn Sierra GameKing SP at 3620FPS out of it's 22" barrel. The area I hunt is flat, fairly wide open and opportunities for shots out to 600-700yrds happen often. I'm looking at building a carry gun that will handle shots like that. I'm planning on using my action with a 26" Shilen Heavy Sporter barrel mounted on a Russo Stock. The thing I can't decide is which round to chamber the gun for. Due to caliber restrictions it has to be .224" I've been thinking of a .22-243 with a 1-8" twist and shoot some 70grn+ projectiles but I'm worried about possible ricochets which is why there is a caliber restriction. That has got me leaning towards a .22-250 AI with a 1-12" twist and 60grn projectiles. I figure I should be able to push them at around 3800fps with the AI and 26" barrel. I know this isn't the long range shooting so of you are into but it's long for me. Does the latter set up sound like it would do the trick? Any opinions or suggestions for changes in my plans?

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Old 01-19-2010, 09:32 PM
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Re: Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

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I'm currently shooting a stock Savage 16FLHSS in .22-250 Rem. Its my carry gun for Coyotes. Calling doesn't work well in my area so most of my shooting envolves walking and spotting. My gun now works well out to 450yrds or so. I'm shooting 55grn Sierra GameKing SP at 3620FPS out of it's 22" barrel. The area I hunt is flat, fairly wide open and opportunities for shots out to 600-700yrds happen often. I'm looking at building a carry gun that will handle shots like that. I'm planning on using my action with a 26" Shilen Heavy Sporter barrel mounted on a Russo Stock. The thing I can't decide is which round to chamber the gun for. Due to caliber restrictions it has to be .224" I've been thinking of a .22-243 with a 1-8" twist and shoot some 70grn+ projectiles but I'm worried about possible ricochets which is why there is a caliber restriction. That has got me leaning towards a .22-250 AI with a 1-12" twist and 60grn projectiles. I figure I should be able to push them at around 3800fps with the AI and 26" barrel. I know this isn't the long range shooting so of you are into but it's long for me. Does the latter set up sound like it would do the trick? Any opinions or suggestions for changes in my plans?

Thanks
Tim

Well to give you a minimum of fuss with out going to an AI in 22-250 put an 8 twist on a 220 swift barrel and look towards Hornady's 75 or 80 grain A max's stoke it with 4831 or Rl-22. At 600-700 yards the above bullets will not be explosive from the 250 AI or the swift. If you are limited to .224 or less your range will suffer if you have to have full bullet frag's. I am a bit of a Swift looney and wind is hell on the current line up of explosive expansion bullets unless there are new offerings that I am not aware of.

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Old 01-19-2010, 09:34 PM
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Re: Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

I think your first thought was pretty darn close to spot on. Don't see how you could go wrong with a 22-243 or one of its variants in a 1-7 or 1-8 twist. Heck, great brass, great bullet selection, what's not to love about it!!!
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Old 01-19-2010, 10:44 PM
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Re: Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

A regular 22-250 in a 1:9 twist barrel will shoot 70 gr Berger VLDs at the ranges you want just fine. Savage even makes a 22-250 with a 1:9 twist barrel.
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Old 01-20-2010, 06:24 PM
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You mention the 22-250AI and that would be my first choice but not in a 1-12" twist, go 1-8" twist for the heavies and dont go 3 groove on your barrel use a 5 or 6 groove barrel.
Word is out that Lapua will have 22-250 brass out by sometime in March.
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:21 PM
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Re: Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

I built what you are after. Called the "Super Duece"...aka.... 222 Magnum AI. Basically, use a 223 AI reamer a little deep. 204 Ruger brass necked up (or buy 222 Mag brass). Using a 1:8 twist Shilen Select Match stainless barrel, 80 gr AMax at 3150 FPS works rather well.

You could also build the "half mile 22"..... 22/6mm AI. 75 gr AMax from 3500 to 3900 + fps.
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Old 01-21-2010, 05:35 AM
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Re: Want to build a long range .224" Coyote gun...opinions

Thanks for the replies guys. As mentioned in my original post I'd like to keep my bullet weight down to about 60grns. Are the 70grn+ bullets really needed for that long of shooting? I have a .243 that drive 75grn Vmaxs but I don't shoot it because I've had issues with the larger bullets not coming apart. I've seem them or pieces of them skip several times. With my current set up I've not had a problem with that. I'd just like to get something a little flatter shooting.

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