up comming review; 2 rifles in 6.5 creed

[Jinx-)]

Coyboy, so how's Savage and the fouling, I'm very curious because I acquire LRP of my own, took to the range and there are lots of fouling... I'm using KG-12 to get rid of copper. On mine its not just one spot where copper accumulates, its all around. I think this barrel requires good dose of J&B... What you think?

[Coyboy]

Originally Posted by Jinx-)

Coyboy, so how's Savage and the fouling, I'm very curious because I acquire LRP of my own, took to the range and there are lots of fouling... I'm using KG-12 to get rid of copper. On mine its not just one spot where copper accumulates, its all around. I think this barrel requires good dose of J&B... What you think?

I'm only at 60-70 rounds with that gun, and I am getting fouling that I feel is typical for a factory barrel at this point. I would suspect when I hit around 200 it should fall of quite a bit.
On the TC, the scratches were possibly caused by the removal of the button, according to a tech at TC, it was not a common problem but did occur on a few barrels. So they want it sent in for a new tube.

[backwoods83]

Jim for factory class you should have picked a model 12 F-class 6.5x284, I started mine off with corbon ammo with 139 lapuas and shot 3 back to back 5 shot groups at the same half inch bullseye and made it disappear! It will shoot sub cal sized groups with my favorite recipe. Has also shot quite a few single digit 1k groups using it in IBS light gun, by far the most accurate factory rifle I've owned.

[Jinx-)]

Jim, are you serious about copper foaling cleaning out on its own after 200 rounds? Do you consider any sort break in procedure? Yesterday I was short on time so I cleaned every 5 shots, but I wasn't able to get rid of the copper in the field, it was strongly embedded in the lands and between.

[Coyboy]

Originally Posted by Jinx-)

Jim, are you serious about copper foaling cleaning out on its own after 200 rounds? Do you consider any sort break in procedure? Yesterday I was short on time so I cleaned every 5 shots, but I wasn't able to get rid of the copper in the field, it was strongly embedded in the lands and between.

I just clean them every 20-30 rounds on a factory gun that fouls with copper, always getting all the copper out with bore-tech and a brush if needed.

Some point after 200 rounds the barrel "breaks in" and typically it fouls less than it did when new. Drill/reamer marks from the rifleing process generally smooth out over use.

Unless you have a bore problem like the TC than the barrel should come around, the scratches in the tc is what is promoting the fouling.

[backwoods83]

Jinx I think the answer your looking for is that you always need a certain amount of copper fouling to fill in the nicks, pits, scratches, and any imperfections in the rifling. After its wore in to where it has a smooth ride when you remove the copper fouling always piss away 5 or so rounds to fill those little spots in. J&B is really only good for carbon fouling, but in my 6mms 6.5s and big 30s I use it every 40-50 rounds, only about every 100 in anything else.

[Jinx-)]

Backwoods, so how about Tubb bore polishing system, which should remove imperfections in riffle barrel?