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Old 12-17-2013, 04:55 PM
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Ultra Mags vs Rem Mag and Win Mag

Are the 7mm Rum and 300 Rum worth the extra cost and recoil, or are the 7mm Rem and the 300 Win just as good if not better choices? Is the 7mm Rum dying off and a round to stay away from? If a person goes with a Rum, is the 300 Rum the better choice?
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:32 PM
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Re: Ultra Mags vs Rem Mag and Win Mag

Better for what? The RUMs will have a greater effective range by about 100-200 yds. They also consume more powder and have shorter barrel life.

IMO, a serious long range hunting rifle should have a brake so recoil is a non issue, but I have shot a 300 RUM for a couple of years without a brake, and yes it kicks hard. I put a brake on my recent built 300 RUM and 6-284. Sure didn't need it on the 6-284 but it makes it much easier to stay or get back on target quickly and just nicer to shoot.

The worth or value is up to you.
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:49 PM
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Re: Ultra Mags vs Rem Mag and Win Mag

I love the potential that the ultra mags offer. They are workhorses especially in ND. You can load them as hot as you want (with in reason of course) and there performance can be as consistent as any. I have the 7 RUM, 300 RUM, 338 RUM, and 375 RUM's respectively. The 7 rum is the easiest to get brass for but you can burn a barrel out if you (as Rhian would say) hit the giggle switch too many times in a row without letting her chill out. All the ultras with the exception of the 375 are considered long range caliber rifles with the 300 and 338 most available. I am truly going to try and make my 375 a long range killer. Might take some money though .

The 300 win is a very good caliber. I have one. But it just doesn't have the horses that my 300 RUM has and sometimes I like to let those horses run along ways!!

The 7 RUM is not, to my knowledge falling off the map anytime soon. Of course these are just my opinions. Find a gun that you want and love to shoot, and then shoot it all the time. It's so fun!!
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:03 PM
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Re: Ultra Mags vs Rem Mag and Win Mag

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Are the 7mm Rum and 300 Rum worth the extra cost and recoil, or are the 7mm Rem and the 300 Win just as good if not better choices? Is the 7mm Rum dying off and a round to stay away from? If a person goes with a Rum, is the 300 Rum the better choice?
The 7mm RUM offers no advantage over the 7mm STW, other than about 100 fps. However, it consumes about 15grs more powder to do so and cuts the barrel life down significantly from such a massive burn and huge muzzle-blast...So it is not a cost-effective 100fps. The .300 RUM however, is an efficient caliber...And has much better barrel life than the 7mm RUM.

7mm RemMag and 300 WinMag are VERY effective and cost-effective calibers. Both are very capable long range calibers, and very common calibers.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:52 PM
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The 7mm RUM offers no advantage over the 7mm STW, other than about 100 fps. However, it consumes about 15grs more powder to do so and cuts the barrel life down significantly from such a massive burn and huge muzzle-blast...So it is not a cost-effective 100fps. The .300 RUM however, is an efficient caliber...And has much better barrel life than the 7mm RUM.

7mm RemMag and 300 WinMag are VERY effective and cost-effective calibers. Both are very capable long range calibers, and very common calibers.
Now we all know you like your STW but barrel life is not going to be all that much better than the RUM, all else being equal such as pressure/heat and rate of fire.

When it comes to efficiency, anytime you climb the case volume ladder in the same cal, you're gonna loose efficiency. A 7-08 is going to be more efficient than a 284 Win which is going to be more efficient than a 7 RM which is going to be more efficient than the STW which is going to be more efficient than the RUM. With the 7 RUM, you do have a very overbore case which restricts the number of good powders that will work well in it but RL33 and RL50 should do very well.

Same goes with the 30 cals. I would agree that the 300 RUM is a little more efficient than the 7 RUM because it is not as overbore, but IMO the 7 RUM is a great cartridge to push the 180 and 195 size bullets. It takes more powder but that's the price you pay.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:11 PM
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Re: Ultra Mags vs Rem Mag and Win Mag

I love the ultra mags!! Specially the 300rum. In all honesty the 300rum will always be in my arsenal!!

Ya the 300 win is good but in my opinion the ultra mags are the way to go for what I need. Well worth the extra cash!!

+1 for the 300rum!!
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Re: Ultra Mags vs Rem Mag and Win Mag

I've owned, a 300 win mag, 338 win mag, and currently own a 338 RUM. There is nothing wrong with the win mag line up. But I will say that the 338 RUM out performs both very easily. For $1500 I built what I refer to as a poor mans lapua by going with a 338 RUM cartridge. I havn't owned a 7mm RUM but it's always in the back of my mind as a cartridge I'd like to try someday. The performance advantage of the RUM line up is there. It all depends if you can/will accept the added reloading costs and recoil. I shoot my RUM without a brake on a 15 pound gun. I'm 180 pounds and can run about 50 or so rounds before my shoulder is sore. Some think I'm crazy. I think heavy recoil is fun
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