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Old 01-25-2005, 09:47 PM
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Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

I would like to have a lightweight rifle capable of taking out varmints and deet on Powerlines, fields, gaslines here in N.C. As far as caliber goes, those 270wsm or 7mm wsm sound good. A 280 AI is a possible. A 7mm/08 with the Hornady high power rounds. or some wicked 25 caliber would all work. Would a stock 25/06 do the job on yoyes and deer to 500 yards reliably? Can anybody suggest something "fun" I know I do not want to go above 140 gr 7 nn bullit. Any thoughts if you were in my shoes. I already have a .270 (A-Bolt)that shoots marble size groups, but I want a change. Does the.257 Weatherby shoot tight groups? Will want to do all this on a 700 Rem action
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:09 PM
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Re: Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

In my opinion, it's all about personal choice. All calibres mentioned should work. I'm biased toward the 280AI. Big performance, not much powder, lots of bullet choices, moderate recoil. Work up to 60 grn AA3100, 59 grn imr 4350, 60 grns 1mr 4831 nosler ballistic tip or partions in 150 grn + plenty more; these print under a minute. My 25-06 has to huffand puff at 500yds. Good luck, Brig.
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Old 01-25-2005, 11:31 PM
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Re: Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

Dimecovers3,

Check this little 25 caliber out.



The three in the middle are 257 Allen Magnums loaded with the 130 gr Wildcat Bullet to +3600 fps. The two little guys on each side are 25-06 rounds loaded with the 115 gr ballistic Silvertip.



This is the APS Extreme Sporter. This rifle is chambered for the 257 AM and weights in at 9.75 lbs with this stock.

I am building a light weight version of this same rifle with a heavy fluted 30" Lilja #6 contour barrel and a McMillan stock. This rifle should weigh in between 8 1/4 and 8 1/2 lbs.

Groups with these rifles average in the .3" range at 100 yards and in the 1.5" range at 500 yards with taylored loads.

This may be more rifle then your looking for but for the ultimate in flat shooting and accuracy in a relatively light rifle they are nearly impossible to beat.

As far as a perfect yote load, if you don't care about pelt damage, the 100 gr Wildcat bullet will average 4100 fps in this rifle.

So far I have only tested out to 350 yards but with a 100 yard impact of +2.3" the 4100 fps, 100 gr pills land +3" high at 350 yards. I suspect at 500 they may well be only a couple inches low!!!

With a Holland QD brake fitted you will see the bullet land at any range with a solid shooting position. Almost more fun then should be legal.

Imagine a 257 Wby, only with another 400 fps added to its top loads and true long range varmint accuracy.

There is also a 6.5mm and 270 version.

Again, probably a bit heavier and larger case then your looking for but for 500 yard shooting, there really is no hold adjustment needed, especially on deer size game.

Good Shooting!!

Kirby Allen(50)
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

6.5-06 and the 140gr SST/AMax will do whatever you want to 500yds and beyond. I just love mine.

Jerry
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Old 01-26-2005, 06:10 PM
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Re: Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

Here's what fits the bill for me:

264 Win Mag, 120gr XLC, Rl-22 (max charge for 3550 fps) - it's a great low recoiling, fast and accurate (for my long range load.

Six deer and one antelope... no recovered bullets yet.
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Old 01-26-2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

That 257 Allen looks like the Wrath of Things to Come---what's involved in making it? Can it be shot from a Rem 700 Long Action or do I need an F-14?
Steve
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Old 01-26-2005, 11:44 PM
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Re: Ultimate Long Range Moderate recoil Deer Round

Dimecover3,

Either will work but its much easier accurizing a Rem 700 then a Tomcat!

Actually easy to make. I will be offering die sets and prenecked brass that is annealed and ready to load for fireforming loads.

Load, shoot, trim and you have full blown 257 Allen Mag brass ready to roll. I also have the wildcat bullets in stock for all the bullet weights that will be used in the three Allen Magnum rounds to they can be shipped with the dies and rifle and load data in one package.

I am not saying it will give you 2000 rounds of throat life but it will give in the range of 1000 to 1200 round barrel life and for a big game rifle that is seveal lifetimes for most hunters and long range shooters.

Good Shooting!!

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