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Too Many 6mm\'s To Choose From

As I was preparing for the spring varmint shoots, I was shocked to realize that I have no 6mm's in the gun safe. So was my local gunsmith. To fill the gap between the .220 Swift and the 6.5x55 Improved, we both agreed I need a 6mm. Unfortunately, I can't figure out WHICH 6mm to have him build.

Primarily to be used for 600-1200 yard p-dogs, when the wind shuts down the .220 Swift with its 40 grain bullets, but I wouldn't mind something that can be used on antelope with a stronger bullet if I ever draw a tag.

Looking at the options, it seems I have:

6mm PPC: OK, it's accurate, but there's not much oomph,is there?
6mm BR Remington: is this gone, or just hiding?
6mm Norma BR: factory loaded, if you can ever find it, and good write-ups from those paid to write. Maybe the best so far?
.243 WSSM: factory loaded, but not very good brass for handloading, not yet, or so I'm told.
6mm Remington: Still seems the velocity king, and I think I can use a .30-06 action. Factory loaded, but not well, it seems.
6mm-06: Certainly not a trendy shape.
6mm-284: Seems about the same as the 6mm Norma BR?

So, that's what I get from reading. What's the word from the real world. Which should I go with?
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    Re: Too Many 6mm\'s To Choose From

    6-284. good brass. good bullets, good speed. great varmint, small deer round.

    really shocking that your smith agreed you need another gun [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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    I dont see the 243 win on your list but it makes a very fine varmint cartridge
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    G&L-Go-with-the-6x284-with-a-1&10-twist-barrel.-You-will-out-do-any-of-the-other-6mm's-you-mentioned.-When-I-owned
    my-6x284;-I-was-pushing-a-87grn-V-Max-at-3750-out-of-a
    30"-pipe.-It-was-deadly-accurate;-I-shot-a-.168-3-shot
    group-at-100-yards.-With-the-1&10-twist-you-will-also
    be-able-to-shoot-105-and-107grn-VLD-bullets.-The-good
    thing-about-the-6x284-is;
    1.-Great-Brass
    2.-It-will-shoot-any-of-the-6MM-bullets-faster-than-the
    other-6mm's-you-have-mentioned.
    3.-It-is-real-easy-to-prep-brass;-all-you-do-is-put-the
    6.5x284-brass-through-the-full-length-6x284-die-and-that
    will-size-the-neck-to-6mm.

    The-6BR-is-an-awesome-round-too.-I-wanted-more-speed
    that's-why-I-went-with-the-6x284.-I-would-go-with-the
    6x284-or-the-6BR-if-I-were-you.-I-know-a-great-gunsmith
    too!!!

    This-is-how-I-rank-the-6mm's.-Combining-Accuracy-&-Speed
    1.-6x284-is-the-VELOCITY-KING-of-all-the-6mm's
    2.-6BR
    3.-6MM-AI
    4.-243AI
    5.-6mm-Remington
    6.-243

    Accuracy-Alone-I-would-say-the-top-three-would-be;
    1.-6BR
    2.-6PPC
    3.-6x284

    For-Varminting-Hunting-at-long-ranges;-I-would-say-the-top
    three-would-be;
    1.-6x284
    2.-6MM-AI
    3.-6BR
    The-top-two-are-going-to-provide-some-awesome-splat-factor.

    All-the-6mm's-are-great-rounds;-but-I-would-say-the-6x284
    would-be-my-top-choice-for-varmint-hunting.-Good-luck
    with-your-choice.

    When-I-am-able-to-build-my-rifle-collection-back-up;-I-will
    have-the-following-rifles-built-for-my-collection;

    1.-220-Swift-100-to-500-yard-rifle
    1.-6BR-100-to-700-yard-rifle
    2.-300-WSM-Already-in-the-works;-100-to-1000-yard-rifle
    3.-338-Allen-Mag-1000-to-2500-yard-rifle

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    I dont see the 243 win on your list but it makes a very fine varmint cartridge

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    You're right. I should have included it (though my gunsmith won't make much money on a .243) or maybe .243AI. I couldn't find many numbers on .243AI, though. I assumed from case size it would be somewhere between 6mm-06 and 6mm Remington.
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    The 6ppc is a little small to shoot 105 grain bullets but there are a few guys using it with good results but they admit the 6br will do better.

    To me, for the ranges you mentioned, there is only one 6mm. The 6mmbr with an 8 twist barrel.

    Forget shooting light bullets out of a barrel burning beast like the 6-284. My puny 6br has never been outshot by a 6-284 at 1000 yards and those are the ones shooting high bc bullets. Nevermind the light bullets.

    If you must burn more than 32 grains of powder, look at the 6xc or the 6x47 Lapua.

    Trust me on this one. The hotrods are fun to brag about, but they are more finicky, more temperamental, and usually less accurate. When someone brags to me about how fast their 6mm fire breathing dragon is, I just shrug and show them a 5" 1000 yard 6br group and the smile on their face fades in a hurry!
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    I just made the decision to get a 6mm BR. I was hooked on velocity to start with, but after more reading I decided the accuracy of the BR was more important the the speed of either the 243AI or 6mmRem AI.
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