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Unread 10-10-2003, 04:56 AM
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titanium

I have looled but have not found in the arcives some where about titanium brakes. I would also like to know if the person who makes these also makes rings and bases out of titanium. I like B.O. rings and bases. Thank You for your responses.
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    Unread 10-10-2003, 08:09 AM
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    Re: titanium

    Titanium is used when weight is an issue. Pound for pound it's stronger than steel, hence less of it needs to be used to get the job done. It's a bugger to machine because it's so hard and strong.

    Given that brakes don't weight much, and a titanium brake would cost an arm and a leg, to me it wouldn't be worth the hassles or the cost.
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    Unread 10-10-2003, 07:47 PM
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    Re: titanium

    I don' know if any of you have watched the show, but the History Channel had a thing on Machine Tools and there was a new process of machining that uses electricity to machine the metal away. I guess the metal molecules are "eaten away" by the process. I wonder if that would be used for Titanium barrels where the barrel is all Titanium?
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    Unread 10-10-2003, 08:03 PM
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    Re: titanium

    titanium is not the wonder metal people think it is.
    it is a bitch to machine
    and it is very cost prohibitive to use except when abosolutly needed.

    a 1.25 inch by 36 inch long peice of Ti is 356 dollars. add in special tooling and a barrel would cost in the neighbor hood of 850 dollars. besides I dont think it would work very vell.

    looking at the specs Ti would burst with a 44 mag charge. not good for rifle running 6K PSI

    Most of the Ti used in like golf clubs is cast, it is cheaper that way.
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    Unread 10-10-2003, 08:47 PM
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    Re: titanium

    There are numerous grades of Titanium
    on the market and the stronger ones are
    more than suitable for any hi pressure
    firearm applications such as barrels or
    actions.

    In barrel applications the problem has always
    been the difficulty in getting a proper
    hole drilled and reamed. The reject rate
    combined with the extreme cost of the material makes it a poor choice. Also, the
    titanium barrels that were made did not last
    as long as steel ones (accuracy).

    I have been personally involved with the
    construction of Titanium:

    -Actions
    -Muzzle brakes
    -Rifle silencers

    and have found it to be an excellent material
    for these applications.
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    Re: titanium

    pure titanium as commercial grade T40 is just good for low stess parts and comestic parts , real strong "titanium" is the alloy TiAl4V wich is an alloy with Vanadium and can heat threated even with that

    Ti6Al4V is strong not hard and galle when you use titanium on titanium as lugs in an action
    that not really easy to machine
    as new raw material cost is hight , I use mostly Titanium alloy take from aeraunotical scrap plant that a lot cheaper

    I use only Titanium on accessory because that take nice finish ( grey titanium ) and that stainless alloy so no need to loos time in coating

    for brake in use regular stainlees steel in 300 serial as 318 alloy , but regular 4140 heat threated for 35 HRC can do nice job

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    Unread 10-11-2003, 01:01 AM
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    Re: titanium

    John hate to break it to ya but it wont burst. The B-One bomber had nothing but Ti tubing running at 4000 psi and it was 4al6v alloy.
    It will stand up to pressure very well.

    I have worked with it a lot and have made some rather interesting parts with it.

    Currently working on a 2.25 dia action made out of it.
    It isnt any fun to machine I'll give ya that.
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