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Old 06-12-2009, 09:59 PM
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Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

Two of my friends recently purchased Tikka T3's in .223. One is a Tactical, the other a Varmint model. Both have 1:8 twist barrels and synthetic stocks. Despite trying numerous projectile/powder combinations we can't get either rifle to group under 1.5-2.0 moa. Tried an Optimum Weight Charge test with Speer 62gr FMJ-BTs and H4895 going up in .3 grain increments from 22.9gr to 25.3gr. Not one three shot group from either rifle was under 1.3 moa.

We've all read numerous reports that these things are meant to be real tack drivers but based on what I've seen so far I could not recommend either of these rifles to anyone. The barrels are clearly designed for longer projectiles (hence the 1:8 twist) but the magazines are blocked off too short to allow these projectiles to be seated out far enough.

Ive suggested to my friends that we investigate bedding the actions but I can't seem to find much information on-line about how to bed a T3. I'm aware they have a funny setup where the recoil lug is part of the stock and fits into a recessed slot in the bottom of the receiver. Some have suggested welding a remington style recoil lug on but we hope to find an easier solution.

So much for the Tikka "under 1 moa guarantee". For comparison, my Savage 112BVSS in 7mm rem mag has never grouped over an inch and usually groups .5 - .7 moa. Never needed any bedding.

Can anyone help with a description or photos of how to bed a Tikka T3 action and modify the magazines to allow longer C.O.L? Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 06-12-2009, 10:25 PM
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Re: Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

I guess the first thing I would try is different bullets. Not all rifles do well with the same bullets. As for the magazine length... most factory rifles are made with a fair amount of freebore in them as a safety mechanism I believe. before you weld them I would take it back and have it sent in. The Tikka comes with a guarantee of 3 shot one inch group at 100 yards.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:45 AM
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Re: Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

Try getting in touch with the guy who writes the Varmint hunting articles for NZHunter magazine, I am pretty sure that he is using a tactical T3 in .223.
Just a thought.

Stu.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:51 PM
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Re: Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

Thanks guys. We have tried quite a few handload and factory load combinations from 50gr to 62gr projectiles. No decent groups with either rifle. We are about to write to Tikka regarding replacing the rifles. Problem is both rifles have had custom suppressors made for them to the tune od $500 each so both owners are fairly committed to staying with each particular model rather than getting refunds. I told them that they could get the rifles replaced and still have the need to bed the new ones so it would be worth looking into how to bed the T3. That's when I discovered there is not a lot of info on the net about how tobed a T3.

Surely someone must have bedded a T3 and made a tack-driver out of a dog.....

Cheers,

Colin
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Old 06-13-2009, 10:39 PM
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Re: Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

"Problem is both rifles have had custom suppressors made for them"

Did you shoot them prior to fitting the suppressors? How do they shoot with and without the suppressor?

The crown of the rifle was not altered when the suppressor was fitted?

I would take off the suppressor and have the barrel crown re-cut. I would then shoot the rifles without the suppressors and see how they go.


It seems too big a coincidence that they both shoot poorly and have both been fitted with custom suppressors!!!!
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:34 PM
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Re: Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

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"Problem is both rifles have had custom suppressors made for them"

Did you shoot them prior to fitting the suppressors? How do they shoot with and without the suppressor?

The crown of the rifle was not altered when the suppressor was fitted?

I would take off the suppressor and have the barrel crown re-cut. I would then shoot the rifles without the suppressors and see how they go.


It seems too big a coincidence that they both shoot poorly and have both been fitted with custom suppressors!!!!

+1 on that!
good point. Admittedly I'm a big Sako fan, but you have to admit that it is not very common to hear of Tikka's or Sako's that shoot terribly.
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Old 06-14-2009, 01:03 AM
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Re: Tikka T3 Problems - Please Help

The Tactical came already threaded for a suppressor and the gunsmith who threaded the Varmint has done hundreds of these (the use of suppressors is legal in New Zealand so they are common). There seems to be no difference in group size whether the suppressors are fitted or not.
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