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Old 12-04-2003, 11:57 AM
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Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

First off I am not trying to pick a fight about using SMK on game, I believe that the people on this board would not use them if they were losing game. This is just my observations on the hornady sst bullet based on my experiences. I hunt and live in south carolina. We have a large population of deer(especially does), I hunt a large private club (14,000 acres) and we usually fill around a 100 doe tags a year(although DNR says we need to shoot 300)
I shoot a won 70 stainless in 270 and use hornady 130 sst ligh mags with an advertised mv of 3215. Since using this load I have killed 15-20 does and five bucks with this load. The ranges have been from 50 -400 yds, the size on the does is from 75-125lbs and the bucks were 130, 135, 155, 158,and 180 lbs. A lot of the does were head shots so not much can be learnt from them, but most shots over 200 yds have been body shots(I shoot for the shoulder)I can recall 8 or 9 and the were hit in the shoulder or just behind and were just what someone would want, either dropped or ran less than 50 yards with an exit hole from the size of a quarter to a baseball. Now all five bucks were shot in the shoulder from 50- 275yds and were all dropped were they stood(except one that went 15 yds in thick cover). Great right?? well NOT ONE of those bullets exited. I could feel a couple under the skin on the far side and cut one out(our deer are taken to a processer so I didn't clean them or recover the bullets)to find about 50 grains left intact. I know I should not complain about this but I can't help but wonder what is going to happen when I plug ol mossy at long range or next to a swamp and he doesn't go down. No exit= no blood trail. Well before I stop rambling, I will mention that I used to use 130 SGK(very close to a SMK right?)and killed 35 or so deer with them and they would also come apart on shoulder shots and rarely exit, but if they exited behind the shoulder you could fit a softball in the hole!! So why do people want to pick on SMK's when the bullets a lot of them shoot perform very similarly, a 220 smk would probably have exited on the deer I shot.

Sorry, but I was bored at work(its raining). [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 12-04-2003, 06:08 PM
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Re: Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

I shot a small buck at the club this year with a 162gr SST.. The shot was on a sharp quarter away adn had to be placed well back for a vital path.. It went in about center mass and evited thru the opposing shoulder.. I didn't get a lot of expansion but it didn't seem to be needed as the deer wa lying where he was shot..
.. Another hit was a headshot on a deformed rack buck at 280 yards.. That one did not exit that I could tell (penetrated right under the ear) but then again I didn't autopsy the carcass.. That made for another easy search but I had to list the spread as "variable".. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] JiNC
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Old 12-04-2003, 06:18 PM
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Re: Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

the mk penetrates much bettr than the gk[at least in my experience]the open nose on the gk dumps all that lead way too quickly.the mk doesnt have the exposed lead nose which allows it to pentrate better w/o shedding as much weight upon impact.sierra claims that that gk design is based on the mk,if that were entirely true then they wouldnt say"we do not recommend the use of match bullets on game"-lol.the only similarity is the boattail design,apart from that they are very different.my 2-dave
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Old 12-04-2003, 06:32 PM
 
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Re: Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

I shoot the 140g SST .270 win and have had no problems with this bullet. I don't need a pass through shot but most of my shots have been. I find that at longer ranges the bullet doesn't open as much so goes through about the same amount of stuff. My longest shot was 580y and the bullet went in the shoulder and out just behind the other shoulder. Only about a thumb size exit but the bullet pulled some lung out with it and deer went less than 50y and dropped. So far they are the best deer bullet for my style of hunting.
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Old 12-05-2003, 12:38 AM
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Re: Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

First longer ranges equals lower velocity wich means they will probably exit. Two I have only had on matchking not exit. This year a doe at 320yds(might have been 318) quartering away shot center of body and travled all the way through chest cavity and into neck.
As to why people argue abouy match bullets, 'cause there ignorant. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 12-05-2003, 09:12 AM
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Re: Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

I am new at the long range hunting but I did score on a whitetail at 600 with a 180SST. The bullet did not exit but the deer dropped.
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Old 12-05-2003, 10:33 AM
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Re: Thoughts on SST\'s(long)

flopduster, remember that you are using a very fast load with a light bullet. The best way to ensure better penetration is to increase bullet weight and reduce vel.

The 150gr SST at around 2900fps would act very differently on the game you have shot. Try it. I bet you will get exit wounds on boiler room shots. You probably still won't get exit wounds if you do heavy shoulder shots but you wouldn't with most bullets.

If you must have an exit wound, then you should look at Barnes X and Failsafe bullets. By design, they will not open up as much and penetrate like crazy. Effect on deer may not be as dramatic but you will have a better chance of a blood trail.

Personally, I have had wonderful success with the Interlocks/SST bullets but use them in moderate vel cartridges like the '06 and 303 Brit. My Gibbs has a muzzle vel of 2950fps and at 330yds, through penetration on my buck this year was a 2" hole. Very easy to track since it was knocked off its feet.

At ranges under 300yds, the impact vel you are experiencing is high enough to cause full expansion. Heavier and slower and you will get exit wounds.

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