I am building a deer rifle on a Remington 700 short titanium action, 22-inch #3 contour barrel. I am considering the 7-08 and 7-08 AI, but I can't seem to find any load data for the AI. I would appreciate your thoughts, data and experiences.
The 7mm-08 will give you everything that you need in a whitetail rifle. The AI version only gives a small increase in velocity and requires that you form the brass and may have some feeding problems. I wouldn't bother.
If you just want something a bit faster than the 7mm-08 how about a 7SUAM or similar cartridge?
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Re: Thoughts on 7-08 AI
If you want a notable velocity improvment how about the 284 win? There is nothing wrong with just a plain old 7-08 either. A little longer barrel would go a LONG way ballistically with the 7-08 over the 22" That is of course unless you are looking for a ultra light rifle.
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
I agree with the options offered, assuming the rifle has to be 7mm? Personal opinion; never had much interest in a 7-08, and as you heard, there is not much to be gained by the Ackley version, to justify the trouble.
But, speaking of trouble, why not forget the whole thing and consider the 260 Rem. which is one of the standard calibers offered in the Titanium?
Yes, I don't particularly care for the 260, either, and truly do not understand why Remington is pushing it so hard, but for what you have in mind, it will kill deer.
Other than that, the 284 is a good one, too. But, there again, I think the titanium is offered in 270, and that one is good to go, right from the box.
My philosophy concerning exotic chamberings is that you have to make a real strong case before you are justified by not using a factory chambering. In other words, you need and want something that can't be had, over the counter.
Your requirements are, to be honest, quite ordinary. I see no good reason why you want to do what you propose. Other than; you WANT IT, which is okay, too. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
Just converted a Titanium 700 7-08 to a 284. Picked up 100 - 150 fps over the 7-08. Worth it?? Only complaint is a feeding problem from the magazine because of the larger diameter case. Accuracy is great. Of course, recoil went up too. Nothing wrong with a 7-08. Use Vit 560 powder and you can push a 140 bullet at close to 2900 fps. Good luck. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
my 7-08ai has been great to say the least--but if i had to do again i would go with the plain old 7-08-why?-feeding due to the sharp shoulder and i have slowed my rounds down about 100fps-[which brings me close to standard 7-08 velocities] . because i get better performance out of the bullets i shoot anyways.the 140g nbt has accounted for 13 elk and around 6 deer and who knows how many varnints-with kills on deer out to 600+ and on elk,out to 400+yds. the 7-08 is simply awesome on all kinds of critters,due to low recoil,high degree of accuracy[in a good rifle]and good bullets and powders to choose from,its very easy to load for-easy on barrels-what else can you ask for?-my-2-dave
I wanted to use the short action and 22-inch barrel to keep the overall length of the rifle to a minimum, and make the rifle a little handier. Your comments on velocity are consistent with what I had heard; very little gain in velocity for the trouble.
I considered the .260, but I think that is a little on the light side for mule deer.
wapiti13: I would like to here more about you experience with the .284. I thought that the .284 would be too long for the mag well on a 700 SA (2.8 inches) when using 140 bullets. Not that it can't be done, but because the bullet is seated deeper, don't you end up loosing a lot of powder capacity to bullet seating?