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Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

 
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:48 PM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

To answer the original question = no the Stevens is not available in large shank......YET!
My red-neck take on the large vrs standard shank is this= I dont give a rats *****
I prefer standard shank as thats what fits in all my ancient savages,old Stevens and cheap Axis/Edges
Savage on the other hand is makeing what they figure they can sell
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Old 08-04-2012, 09:21 PM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

UPDATE: I finally gave up on savage RUM, and went remington. I hope this doesn't make any savage fans mad, but I finally realized that going from small to large shank wasn't the complete story, anyways. It seems that the 1.12" large shank really didn't cut the mustard either. They also ditched on that one for RUM, after only a few years. The question again is why? If I heard correctly, rem goes 1.3" on the barrel shank. That's .24" over the SSS, as opposed to only .06" over, for the SLS. That's a factor of 4x - pretty significant, I would say. And THEY are still in the RUM game. But regardless, the bottom line is that I could not find find what I wanted in savage anyways. I guess it was the stock that I had already purchased for savage LA that kept me hanging on so long. Anyways, my stainless remington 7RUM should be here in a few days. I do plan on keeping my SSS 7mag though, and would still consider re-barreling/chambering it to what is available in standard shank.

P. S. There IS 1 thing that I think remington just might be ditching on though. That would be the carbon steel (blued) barreled 7RUMs. I think the reason likely has to do with short barrel life.
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Old 08-04-2012, 09:35 PM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

Wrong again 4140 chromoly is stronger and will last longer than 416r, it takes a long time to cut a rum size chamber in 416r and even longer in 4140, so it takes longer and is harder on tooling. Btw your rem 700 still has 1.062"x16tpi action threads and a 1.250" shoulder, learn a few things before you ask for advice and then bash and argue with the advisors.
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:35 AM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

Seriously? What I mentioned there was based entirely on info that I got off of THIS site. I guess you can't believe everything that you read on the web. But you do have a point, in that taking something as "gospel" without verification, and then repeating it, is just as bad of a "sin" as being the original disseminater of the bad info, even though the intent was good.

If what you say about stainless is true, it bums me out. What I read (on this site), was that stainless will get you approximately 20% more barrel life than non-stainless. But maybe it was only 1 person who said it (as an "opinion" maybe?), and then maybe I extrapolated it into a "general consensus"? I'm not sure. But apparently, it looks like I'm going to have to stand "corrected".

Of course that means I need to look at YOU in the same light (as just an opinion). But being that you say you are one of the moderators on this site, it does give a lot more weight to what you have to say. Now you are saying the opposite of what I thought the situation to be for stainless barrel life. So what is YOUR estimate, percentage wise, of how much LESS the life of a stainless barrel is, shot wise?

Also, why do YOU think that rem discontinued the non-stainless version of the 700 SPS in 7RUM (84152), if it has better life than stainless??
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:51 AM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

The short answer, Remington is cheap. I suspect if they discontinue the 7mm rum in chromoly that they will discontinue all rum and lapau sized chamberings in chromoly.
Chromoloy is much tougher/ harder than 416r ss, it takes longer to contour, chamber, crown, lap, etc... this is why lots of gunsmiths prefer not to use it, it is harder on and wares out tooling faster. If it wasn't tough though the military would be using 416r instead of 4140 in the M16s.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:18 PM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

OK, fair enough. Like you were saying, I do need to take in more info, and put out less, especially when it comes to things that I don't know enough about. People do tend to believe what they read, and the last thing I want to do is mis-lead anybody. So I hope you don't mind a couple more questions.

About the 1.3" shank, might that be the OD of the section that is in front of the threaded section, on rem shanks, or the TOTAL thickness at the threaded section, with the receiver thickness figured in? I haven't received my 700SPS yet, to be able to mic things out.

I could be off on this, but the other thing that I'm beginning to suspect, is that maybe there are non-stainless barrels made that are ALSO non-chrome/moly. Could that be the case, considering how tough you say the C/M is to mill? If so, that might explain the 20% more stainless life that I heard.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:37 PM
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Re: Is Stevens 200 long action available in LARGE shank?

There are all kinds of metals and grades that barrels are made of but the most commen are 416r ss and 4140 chromoly, suposedly remington uses 4140, I truely do not know because if I get a remington that shoots under .5" I leave it alone until it needs attention, but most of the time they won't consistently do it, so the barrel gets scrapped and replaced by a custom. The 1.25-1.3" that you speak of is just the shoulder where it butts up against the recoil lug, behind that the barrel theards are 1.0625"x 16 threads per inch, this is why everyone is telling you a savage is fine, it is 1.060"x 20 threads per inch, also the savages usually have .010-.015" more bolt lug contact. Your best bet would have been to get a barrel blank and have a gunsmith shoulder it on a savage action, then it would be the same as the SPS you ordered with the benefits of an accutrigger and floating bolthead, not to mention the new SPS actions feel like they are running on 80 grit sandpaper when cycling the bolt. Parts wise though remington definently has the advantage.
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