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SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

 
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Old 01-04-2011, 12:40 PM
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Re: SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

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At shorter ranges, <300 you are driving them beyond their design limits.
+1 I had 180 sst's blow up in mid air at over 3400' when fired out of a three groover......Rich
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Re: SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

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+1 I had 180 sst's blow up in mid air at over 3400' when fired out of a three groover......Rich
well I think we now all know that the SST and a Weatherby mag is a no go!
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Old 01-04-2011, 02:47 PM
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Re: SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

I've taken two whitetails and a hog over the past few weeks using the 117gr SST load in 25-06. All were DRT at about 200 yards.
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I've taken two whitetails and a hog over the past few weeks using the 117gr SST load in 25-06. All were DRT at about 200 yards.
but your also talking 2500 to 2600 fps on impact. We're talking about the bullet doing bad things at 3300 fps. Hornaday told me that the bullets max out at about 3000fps.
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Old 01-05-2011, 09:26 AM
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Re: SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

If you check out the Nosler web-site you will see them state that the hunting Ballistic Tips need to be under 3100 fps for them to work like they were designed.
I have killed in excess of 75 white tail deer with ballistic tips over the years. When they first came out the jacket was too thin and the bullet would blow up. 30-06 150 gr bt at 2900 fps 100 to 200 yards would go in and really come apart on a behind the shoulder shot. I stopped using them for a while because the deer would run off a ways and there was NO BLOOD TRAIL. They bled inside. I heard that Nosler changed the bullet and I tried them again. THEY WORKED. I have used them in different calibers and mostly try to take a shoulder shot either going in or exiting. Many times inside 200 yards if you start the bullet out at 3000 to 3100 fps it will not exit on broadside through both shoulders shots but will find the jacket of the bullet just under the hide on the off side. Beyond 200 yards where the bullet has slowed down some it will exit most of the time. The .308 125 gr Nosler ballistic tip if kept under 3100 fps muzzle velocity is a real deer hammer. My 30-30AI Contender 14" barrel pistol loves them. At 2670 fps they just DRT deer. I have shot around 30 deer with the 125 BT in three different caliber rifles and pistols and I have not had but two even take a step after taking one. Those did not go more than three jumps before they were down for the count. I have never used the SST. My buddy tried some in his 25-06 117 gr and could tell no difference in them and the 117 SP interlock. They killed deer just fine.

For those who disdain the damage done to the shoulders from a ballistic tip don't shoot them in the shoulder. Most any high velocity bullet hitting the shoulder bone of a deer is going to really mess it up. But if you don't want to trail a deer shoot it in the center to a little high of dead center on the front shoulder and most of the time the only trailing you will do is with your eyes watching it bounce when it hits the ground.

I have found that if you are going to be pushing a bullet over 3100 fps then the Noselr Accubond is the one you want. I have been using the 130 gr in my 264 Win mag at 3350 fps and as close as 80 yards it went in one shoulder and exit out the other with a 25 cent piece size exit and deer was DRT. I have killed 5 deer with this set up from 80 to 250 yards and all were DRT. I did recover one bullet from a big buck shot at 111 yards. It was almost facing me and I placed the bullet on the edge of it's left front shoulder and when cutting up the meat I found the bullet in the right ham. Text book mushroom and weight was 87 grs.
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Re: SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

When I bought my .308 VTR this fall, I had not started reloading yet. I started using Hornaday Superformance loaded with thier 150 Grain SST's.

After sighting it, I shot three deer in three shots. First was 5x6 buck dressed at 150lbs, 210 yards, broadside, ran about 50 yards, split the heart in half. Two-finger sized exit hole.

Second was a 4x5, even larger buck, 135 yards, broadside, took 10 steps and fell dead.

Third was a mature doe, lung shot at 50 yards running, went another 20 yards and dropped.

Those were good enough reasons to reload them.
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Re: SST and Balistic Tips on deer. A good choice?

#1 Took a 160lb whitetail facing me at 15yds...Hit him square in the chest with a 168gr Combined Tech. Ballistic Tip from my 30-06...it passed above the heart, began to veer up, took out one lung and ended up lodged in the spine just foward of the hind end...I dug the bullet out of the vertibra and it was almost a perfect mushroom, about 70% intact and the deer of course didn't take a step.

#2 Took a 120lb whitetail at 110yds ..broadside right behind the shoulder with the afore mentioned combo.....entrance would was the size of a penny..complete pass through with exit the size of a qrtr....made complete mush out of the lungs....Very, very good blood trail.
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