Originally Posted by stevotary
Does anyone have expertise on solid copper bullets like Barnes TSX and federal trophy copper? Do they retain the same energy down range? Are they good for long range hunting on deer, elk in 300wm? Shooting them at metal at 800 yards they seem to not have as much punch as the lead core. Do they have a lower sectional density? I know there accuracy is good.
In recent years solids have improved a bunch, like most all bullet designs from top manufacturers. We are lucky to have so many great choices today.
There are 2 schools of thought involved when you talk about solids, "mono metal" bullets compared to lead core copper jacketed bullets. Most shooters have strong feelings as to what and why they choose. If they like one, they usually do not like the other. These two types of bullets simply work very differently. And none of them are perfect at all distances or impact velocities.
Since I have used both, and I am an avid shooter of a 300 win, I will answer your questions directly as truthful as I can.
1: Do they retain the same energy down range? Yes, and no. the same weight bullet at the same velocity will have the same energy at point of impact. The bullet with the higher BC will retain velocity longer and will it will have the most energy at target. At closer distances the mono bullets are more likely to pass through. This is due to the fact they expand less. So it is believed that a highly expandable bullet will deliver more energy into the animal as it stops there and the animal takes it all. At longer distances, lets say 500 yards, it is likely both bullets will pass through. In this case the bullet that expands most will do the most damage. At vey long distances 1000 plus, where velocity is slowed it is more difficult to get the solid to expand and this is the main reason I have switched to lead core , high BC bullets.
2:Are they good for long range hunting on deer, elk in 300wm? Again yes and no. It depends on what you call long range. At 500 yards, yes in most cases, 300 and below the solid will do a fine job. 600 plus I much prefer the accuracy and expansion of the lead core bullets.
3:Shooting them at metal at 800 yards they seem to not have as much punch as the lead core. Do they have a lower sectional density? This is an observation and I can not answer it truthfully without more data. I would look at the BC of both bullets you are comparing. If they start at the same velocity, and sometimes even if the higher BC starts out a bit slower, BC will determine which bullet arrives with the most velocity and energy. If they are of equal weight.
Since you are asking about a long range bullet for the 300 win. I will offer you my testing thread from last season. In it you will find many big game animal kills from many distances. Also impact velocities and terminal damage photos of the bullets performance. I suggest you give it a good look and then decide if you like the performance you see.
Comparing the Berger 210 VLD to the 215 Hybrid
I will add that meat damage in any animal I have shot was directly related to bullet placement. Way more so than bullet type. If you shoot the animal in the shoulder or the hams with any type bullet expect meat loss. Place the bullet in the vital area through the ribs and meat loss will be kept to a minimum.
The thread above is long, but there is good solid real world data there as it happened. I hope it helps you understand a little more about how bullets work.