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Old 08-26-2013, 10:48 AM
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OK, now I'm trackin'! I completely missed the point of your thread. NEVER MIND!
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:57 AM
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Just to explain a little better, the 4 feet and 16 inches high shots were very apparently due to putting the Magnetospeed chronograph on the barrel. After adjusting for the higher POI with the Magnetospeed, I was again hitting the steel.
Seems like the chrono is more of a pain in the ass then its worth...I would like to know the name of the barrel co. so I don't ever use them..If you don't want to put it on this thread then send me a pm. thanks
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:55 AM
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Seems like the chrono is more of a pain in the ass then its worth...I would like to know the name of the barrel co. so I don't ever use them..If you don't want to put it on this thread then send me a pm. thanks
I am very familiar with issue and deleted thread. There are 2 sides to the story and a greater big picture so don't jump to any conclusions. IMO, the parties involved should get this worked out in private.

As for the Magnetospeed, I was invloved in testing one against an Oehler 35 with 3 other shooters and their rifles who are members here. I was shooting a Vanguard 223 at 412 yd steel and my shots were dead nuts on with the instrument attached to my muzzle. None of the others had any accuracy issues either. You might get some shift in POI with the magneto speed but I will guarantee you that the standard optical chrony's are a whole more of a PITA than the magneto speed. It also agreed with the Oehler to within a few FPS of almost every shot. My next chrono will be a magnetospeed.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:18 PM
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I am very familiar with issue and deleted thread. There are 2 sides to the story and a greater big picture so don't jump to any conclusions. IMO, the parties involved should get this worked out in private.
Montana,
My intent to starting this thread was not to rehash the previous thread. My intent was to provide some feedback to those in the previous thread that said that it must be a shooter problem. Extreme asked who it was, and I sent a PM to him to keep this confidential in this thread.

At this point I don't think there is anything they are willing to do or to even talk to me. So I feel like I'm just stuck. Do you have any suggestions???
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:28 PM
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Montana,
My intent to starting this thread was not to rehash the previous thread. My intent was to provide some feedback to those in the previous thread that said that it must be a shooter problem. Extreme asked who it was, and I sent a PM to him to keep this confidential in this thread.

At this point I don't think there is anything they are willing to do or to even talk to me. So I feel like I'm just stuck. Do you have any suggestions???
First, I have had a similar issue with a Sako rifle and Beretta CS so I know how you feel about feeling stuck. Right now I have a $1200 # MOA shooting rifle. That said, I can see the barrel maker's point of view in this also.

Kirby said that as a gunsmith, he always checks accuracy on the rifles me makes before sending them. Not all smiths do that, but from a smith's point of view, that's a very good policy IMO.

My advise would be to have your smith give the rifle a good accuracy check. The barrel maker has said that he values your smith as a customer and I'm guessing he would accept his assessment on an accuracy check.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:23 PM
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I am very familiar with issue and deleted thread. There are 2 sides to the story and a greater big picture so don't jump to any conclusions. IMO, the parties involved should get this worked out in private.

As for the Magnetospeed, I was invloved in testing one against an Oehler 35 with 3 other shooters and their rifles who are members here. I was shooting a Vanguard 223 at 412 yd steel and my shots were dead nuts on with the instrument attached to my muzzle. None of the others had any accuracy issues either. You might get some shift in POI with the magneto speed but I will guarantee you that the standard optical chrony's are a whole more of a PITA than the magneto speed. It also agreed with the Oehler to within a few FPS of almost every shot. My next chrono will be a magnetospeed.
I, know there are 2 sides to every story..I also followed the thread that jeff had on the test of the 3 chrono...What I saw were three test results with 3 different sets of numbers..Until this happened I was going to pm jeff and ask him a few questions.
I figured you would be one of the other gies guys that was there with him..I,am on
my second Oehler 35 and I trust it and I never had a problem with the first one..
Not saying the magnetospeed is no good ,,you want you buy it...I was going to ask jeff his real opinion of 3 different sets of numbers and which set he would use and why..You most likely have the wrong opinion of me ,,but that's ok,,,Oh by the way jeff if you read this ,,I have alcohol and nitro in my veins also.The one time king of top fuel ( rail ) Joe amado comes from area ..
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:41 PM
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I, know there are 2 sides to every story..I also followed the thread that jeff had on the test of the 3 chrono...What I saw were three test results with 3 different sets of numbers..Until this happened I was going to pm jeff and ask him a few questions.
I figured you would be one of the other gies guys that was there with him..I,am on
my second Oehler 35 and I trust it and I never had a problem with the first one..
Not saying the magnetospeed is no good ,,you want you buy it...I was going to ask jeff his real opinion of 3 different sets of numbers and which set he would use and why..You most likely have the wrong opinion of me ,,but that's ok,,,Oh by the way jeff if you read this ,,I have alcohol and nitro in my veins also.The one time king of top fuel ( rail ) Joe amado comes from area ..
I haven't seen that thread... gotta link? The third chrony was mine, an accustic Superchrony. It was much less consistant than the Oehler and Magnetospeed especially at higher velocities. The next day I went to use it the batteries were shot, so not really sure if that had anything to do with it. IMO, you can't tell which was most accurate between the Oehler and the Magnetospeed unless you have other baselines or equipment to measure them against. What you can deduce is that the Oehler is a proven instrument with a fairly high level of reliability and that the 2 agreed very closely. For me, it says both are probably quite accurate to within a few fps. I doubt that either is perfect and any one who actually, implicitly believe the numbers they see on their LCD is deluding themselves. I think a good test for an Oehler is to set a couple up back to back, and see how they compare. My guess is there would be some deviation and I would also guess that ant one unit might be a little more or less accurate then another. Even doppler radar has an accuracy window, I know because I was an AF navigator and used it quite a lot. Each unit in each aircraft had its own personality. Any LE officer who has used it can probably testify to the same. As for the PITA factor, the magnetospeed is waaayyyyy easier to use than the typical chrony and is not affected by environmental conditions.

Anyway, I don't have a negative opinion of you.. I was just jumping in to set the record straight. Peace
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