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Old 08-29-2012, 09:14 PM
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Re: Savage 111 long range issue

What are you using to clean your rifles? I am just reaching, but maybe you have some carbon starting and causing increased pressures as your barrel heats up. I am just reaching here since it sounds like you have your bases covered.

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Old 08-29-2012, 09:25 PM
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Re: Savage 111 long range issue

If you haven't already, check the forearm tip to make sure it isn't contacting the barrel. When I fully floated the barrel I was able to produce .25-.5 MOA, 5 shot groups. Also, make sure you use the torque specs listed in the manual when tightening the guard screws. I have the same stock, bedding block, without the wedge. It doesn't like to be overly tightened. The rifle I have is the LRH Model 111. I found that the rifle really liked the 140gr. Berger Hunting VLD's. I'm using Lapua brass, Federal 210 match primers, and, 53gr.of H4831sc. Bullets are seated .075 off the lands. The Lapua brass is FL sized with the neck o.d. At .292". At .010" off the lands i got flyers. Its good that you are getting Lapua brass, the 6,5x284 Hornady brass is junk!!!! Maybe it was just a bad lot but it gave me chambering problems.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:45 PM
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Re: Savage 111 long range issue

The gun is a model 111 lrh. I don't have a complete barrel break in, I only have 35 rounds through the gun. I use Hoppe's #9 to clean my barrel. Also when I shoot, I shoot one round, wait a minute or so, so on for the first three. I then wait upwards of 20 minutes to do it again. I will take the gun out and check to make sure the forend of the stock is not touching the barrel. Thanks for all of the help so far. Oh, as far as having a tried and true load, I guess not really. With 130gr TSX"s and 49 grs of H4350, it shot about .75" for the first group, then went to crap. The Bergers did about .3". I would like to assume that if it can do it once, it should be able to do it again?
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:54 PM
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Re: Savage 111 long range issue

I took the gun out to look at the forend of the stock. I cannot slide a dollar bill the front. About 1/8" to 1/4" is touching the barrel. Should I take the stock off and dremel it?
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:32 PM
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Re: Savage 111 long range issue

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I took the gun out to look at the forend of the stock. I cannot slide a dollar bill the front. About 1/8" to 1/4" is touching the barrel. Should I take the stock off and dremel it?
You will find that the fore end tip that is touching can be relieved easily and neatly with some course sandpaper warped around a wood dowel. It's only a small section of plastic. Floating your barrel at the tip should help with the flyer issue. I saw a difference when shooting multiple shots. Judging from the initial results your getting, I believe your rifle will produce excellent results once you clean up the stock, complete break in, and refine your load. Also, I have found that Hoppes will not remove the copper during break in. A cleaner like Bore Trch with copper cleaner is necessary.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:01 PM
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Re: Savage 111 long range issue

I have to agree. You don't need a new barrel. You have one.

Float it. Break it in. And, develop a load that's repeatable.

You can't just go by one or two 3 shot groups.

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Old 08-29-2012, 11:32 PM
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Sounds good, that's the direction I will go. Thanks for now and I will let you know how it goes.
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