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Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

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Unread 09-22-2008, 09:21 PM
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Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

What do you guys think? i'am getting ready to start having one built ordered a neww rem 700. I'am thinking nightforce, mcmillan a-5, jewell, and rock creek. barrels are the only only thing i'am not sure of! I have seen both hart and lilja shoot very well, but read a article on Rock creek and am very interested
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    Unread 09-22-2008, 09:34 PM
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    Re: Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

    All are very good barrels. The Hart and Lilja are button rifled and Rock Creek barrels are cut rifled. I have two Rock Creek barrels and they are excellent barrels. My 300 WSM long range rifle will consistently shoot sub 1/2 MOA. Not to say that the others wont.
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    Unread 09-22-2008, 09:54 PM
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    Re: Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

    any of the topendmakers make barrels that are just as accurate as any other , I have had , Hart , Rock , Obermeyer , Kreiger , Lilja , Pac-Nor and Douglas barrels on several guns in several calibers and all shot very well , some were softer than others and thats noticed when you chamber them.

    You may also want to check out Bartlein , Brux and McGowan barrels the first two have been making a big up comming and winning alot of shoots the McGowan barrels are supposed to be very well made also but they are fighting alot of damage to the name of the former owner.

    Currently I think Brux is having the best turn around time being right at 4-6 weeks
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    Re: Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

    If you get a top end barrel from any of the makers already listed, on average, the machining to fit the barrel, the chamber quality, the receiver trueness and the bedding quality will make a bigger difference in accuracy then the brand of barrel on the rifle.

    Simply put, get a good barrel and then its on your smith to make a rifle that shoots. The barrels most often will. That said, I have seen samples from nearly every maker listed that had problems but they are pretty rare with the top makers.

    Take your pick to be honest.

    I use Lilja barrels nearly 90% of the time on my customers and personal rifles. I am not saying they are that much better then the other top end barrels, I am only saying that they are as good as any barrel out there and they get you what you order in a consistant timeframe which is kind of refreshing in this day and age.
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    Re: Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

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    You may also want to check out Bartlein , Brux and McGowan barrels the first two have been making a big up comming and winning alot of shoots the McGowan barrels are supposed to be very well made also but they are fighting alot of damage to the name of the former owner.
    I used my first SS McGowen barrel (1-7 twist) chambered in one of my specialty pistols at 500 yards yesterday. This was the first for me to use this barrel beyond 200 yards. MOA Maximum handgun chambered in 6mm-6.5x47 Lapua, 105 Bergers, H-4350:
    3-shot group at 500 yards-no sighters-shooting off of a bipod= 1.25 inches. McGowen has quite a fast turn around time as well.
    Shot as good as my Lilja, Kreiger, and SHilen barrels

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    Re: Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

    I am having this same dilemma. Which top end barrel maker does a better job at prefit or drop in barrels?

    The reason I ask is, I want try my hand at building a custom rifle, but lack access to certain machinery to do this from scratch. Who knows I may get started on it and decide I'm in way over my head and let a gunsmith finish the build, but I won't know until I try.
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    Re: Rock Creek vs. Hart vs. lilja

    Lostinspace,
    If you must try to do a prefit so you can DIY By all means start with a Savage action. Other than that, refer to FiftyDriver's response. The chambering, fitting, trueing and bedding all have orders of magnitude difference compared to barrel brands. That's where the real money is spent and noticed.
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