Remington 700 SPS Varmint INFO & ADVICE

hawkshaw59 · #8 04-24-2007, 10:14 PM

In the beginning the .308 had a 1:12" but they changed it to 1:10" later. Hopefully they will change the .22-250 in the near future to something more suitable.

superlite17 · #9 04-27-2007, 04:03 PM

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I too am looking into the 22-250 SPS varmint. The only thing I can't for the life of em figure out is why they put a 1:14" twist in the 22-250. The .223 has a 1:12" twist, do they expect you to shoot longer heavier bullets out of a .223 than a 22-250? That's nuts. I was looking forward to getting one of these and shooting the heavier VLD bullets but I doubt a 14" twist will stabalize anything past 55gr.

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So you guys do not think this rifle will perform w/ the heavier grain?

Also those of you that have them... did you compare to Savage and are you glad you made the decission you made? Looks as if that trigger is new and maybe adjustable, is it?

Thanks - Rod

CatShooter · #10 04-27-2007, 04:39 PM

The 14" twist in the 22-250 will woirk fine with the 55gr soft points.

But it will usually NOT work well with the 55 grain plastic tipped bullets like the 55 V-Max, and the 55 Gr Blitzking. (I have the tee shirt [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] )

superlite17 · #11 04-27-2007, 05:04 PM

Pardon my ignorance, there is a lot of it. I have hunted and shot my whole life, but just recently really become OBSESSED with accuracy and I do not understand a lot of concepts related to it: So those and heavier "might" not perform or they "will not perform"? I ask because I like the ballistic tip bullets, kinda feel my soft points get nicks and dings, which I with my limitted knowledge believe affect my accuracy.

Here is what leads to this discussion: My first rifle was a Browning auto .270, it was lucky to shoot a 3" group at 100', I then bought a Ruger .300 that litterally stacked them on top of eachother, after several years I sold because of recoil and got a 7mm which was OK, since then I have bought and sold MANY rifles because I wanted better accuracy... I have not found one. I now have Tikka Continental hunter that is OK, 1/2 between shots at 100'. Anyway, I want a very accurate rifle, actually two. A Varmint and I am going to sell the Tikka. So advice on either, or both is welcome.
I have kinda come up with maybe buying tactical for hunting as I believe maybe the tollerances are better on them. Then Varmint... I am confused [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Thanks ALL - Rod

superlite17 · #12 04-27-2007, 10:13 PM

Cat, The Remington 700 SPS Varmint is heavy barrel. I am asking for hep on some specific questins... If you have not had exposure to the specific product in question, and really do not know anything about it, it is best not to comment. Had I and others not seen this rifle, your quote could have led me astray. Thanks to all of you who do have experience with this product, it seems as though it might be a fair deal i could put a better stock on later.

Cat, no fascination with snipers here, just use it as a generalization rather than listing model # or acronym. Additionally, go to any manufacturer's site and you will find... generally speaking, the "sniper rifles" or for those who like to belittle others, or get the idea anyone who uses the term "sniper" is a wanna-be... "Police tactical" rifles ARE MADE TO BETTER SPECS THAN THE VARMINT LINE... just the nature of their intended target. No "fascination" here. Cat, I have been and done everything I was ever "fascinated with" in my life... what about you? I'm a closet psychologist as well, and I doubt it, or you wouldn't need to use internet forums to belittle other people.

Cat, virtually every topic i have started, you have commented on. Either your information is a WAY OFF generalization... or insulting. If you see my posts in the future forgo the need to post, and go to the nearest dumpster and take your frustrations out on a cat...

Holepuncher · #13 04-27-2007, 11:55 PM

Catshooter I did notice you said usually wont shoot 55 bt's I mostly use 52grn Berger's in my 22-250 but my rifle will also nail targets with bug holes using 55 combined technology BT'S!
Oh by the way I happened by and had to join and chim in!

Don

Superlite17 I have also took notice to the SPS but I must say I dont think the SPS will hold a candle to a Tikka Varmint in 22-250. Those Tikkas will really shoot with tailored hand loads!

davkrat · #14 04-28-2007, 08:19 AM

It's not the weight of the bullets that is the actual problem with barrel twist and stabaliziation. The length of the bullet is what determines the stabalization requirements of the bullet. A bullet having a fixed diameter can only get longer in order to have more mass, therefore a heavier bullet tends to be a longer bullet. You can't compare a 52 grain this with a 55 grain that, they will probably be similar but not equal. The .277 130 grain BT and 150 grain Partition are almost identical in length. I assume that the .22-250 has that slow twist rate because of the higher velocities of the round compared to the smaller .22's. Unfortunately I think the Marketing hype dictates this one. You've got to push those little 40 grain pills to 4000fps in order to sell rifles I guess! In a fast twis barrel 4000fps would lead to too high of RPMs for the light bullets to handle and they blow up in flight. It's too bad the major manufacturers haven't caught on to the high BC slower velocity befefits at long range. Then again the average hunter probably just wants speed. I'll probably get one of the SPS just for fun. I don't have the funds to drop on full blown custom rifles, I like to get something that is usable at a fair cost and then work on them over time. Some of them I may never get done but I like knowing that if I start with a Rem 700, even a cheap bead blasted one, I can always have a new barrel put on and drop it into a nice stock. I guess I just won't be shooting any of those long VLD's out of my 1:14" SPS.