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Old 12-04-2013, 10:23 AM
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Re: Remington 700 quality

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I bought a Rem 700 Police Tactical in the mid 90s for some dept. shoots. It was before I reloaded and only used Federal match ammo without much success. Groups no better than 3'' so i did not keep it long. Bought a new then .260 in a TC and it will still shoot a .75 all day and is my Daughters rifle now.
The reason im typing this today is my New in the box CDL in 300wsm is the worst copper eating machine I or my gunsmith has ever seen. I didn't catch the copper fouling at first because my bottle of Sweets went bad and was hardly showing any cooper " my bottle had a crack in the cap" and was several years old. I took it to my GS and he showed me the bore at the muzzle and with the naked eye it looked like someone had an cooper colored crayon in it about 30 shots worth. It took 2 hours for him to clean it and a pile of patches. I brought it home to start the process all over again and on the first shoot from a clean bore it looked it the GS never cleaned it. I had picked up a bottle of Butches bore shine and got to scrubbing and waiting, and some more and some more. It took me 45mins to get that 1 shot out. I shot it two more times and two days and 4 hours later its about 95% clean. Right in front of the throat and about 6'' from and to the muzzle is were I meet most of the resistance. I contacted Remington about it and they said to send it to them, so we'll see what they will do.
Hi George, when you get your new rifle in try this. Clean it very clean. Next thing to do is get some flitz and polish the bore until you think it is bright as a new dime. I have done this on many new Rem. barrels and they will shoot and clean like a custom barrel. I recently got a new 308 ADL and followed my procedure as usual. This rifle will shoot 5 shots with 168 Bergers into 1/4" if i do my part. You can get rid of the Sweets also. I use a product called TM bore cleaner that works great. Hope the next one will be better for you. ..... SEMPER FI
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:42 AM
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Hi George, when you get your new rifle in try this. Clean it very clean. Next thing to do is get some flitz and polish the bore until you think it is bright as a new dime. I have done this on many new Rem. barrels and they will shoot and clean like a custom barrel. I recently got a new 308 ADL and followed my procedure as usual. This rifle will shoot 5 shots with 168 Bergers into 1/4" if i do my part. You can get rid of the Sweets also. I use a product called TM bore cleaner that works great. Hope the next one will be better for you. ..... SEMPER FI
I do the same thing, except I use JB Bore Paste rather than Flitz. It works well too, and I have noticed that the copper fouling is not bad at all.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:56 AM
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Re: Remington 700 quality

I just hope I can get it back in time to hunt with this year!
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:59 AM
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Interesting thread, I can't comment on current 700 quality but can say that I own 3 "older" 700's and they all shoot under 1". My newest is an original 700 ti in 7-08 and my current 120 load shoots @.520 and is a dream to carry. My only concern is when I get around to trying 140's is the mag. only allows max oal at 2.800 the bullet will sit deep. My second is an original Mt. rifle, .30-06 from early 80's and it has shot any bullet weight I have tried under 1" with most loads being closer to .50"(165,180,200). My third was a model 78 sportsman that became a 35 Whelen AI and it shoots 225 Barnes XLC's at 2880 fps @ .625. All have had very little work done to them other than making the triggers better and making sure the barrels are floated, and working hard on load development.
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Old 12-04-2013, 01:52 PM
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Re: Remington 700 quality

My brother ordered a 700 in 25/06 and a heavy barrel 308 within the last 6 months, both of the crowns were damaged, that's why I buy Tikka's now.
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Old 12-04-2013, 10:45 PM
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My brother ordered a 700 in 25/06 and a heavy barrel 308 within the last 6 months, both of the crowns were damaged, that's why I buy Tikka's now.
many moons ago I bought a 700ADL in .270 Winchester. Rifle shot 3/4" groups with Remington factory loads, and I was pretty happy. Later on I came into a new in the box 6mm heavy barreled rifle, and it shot groups close to .60". At the time it was shooting very well. Then I bought a .223 700VS years later. It was a rock solid 4.25" gun with hand loads. Build quality sucked on a good day. But I thought it was just one bad apple out of many good ones. Later I learned that I had joined the masses with rotten apples. My dealer (a pretty reputable bunch said it was just the end user, but soon changed their minds, when I shot better than they could. Pulling other new ones off the shelf, and looking them over it seemed like they were constantly returning them be fore being sold. The dealer almost quit carrying Remington's due to customer complaints. Just prior to that I bought my first Weatherby. A Vanguard in 30-06, and it shot 3/4" groups with Remington 150 grain core locks. But most of all it came with a proof target. Later I buy another, and it shot the same (25-06) or better. Even later I buy a Winchester heavy barrel mod. 70 in .223. It was a rock solid 2.5" gun! Got rid of it as fast as I could! Even later I buy a mod 70 in 22-250, and it was not much better, but I liked the stock better than either of the others. I built a 6BR off the action. This rifle is a solid .33" shooter. (a better operator might get another .100" out of the group size). While all this is going on, I buy three Savage rifles in 22-250. The worst one shot .30" groups and the best one was a solid low twos shooter. Did nothing to any of them, other than mounting a scope. The middle rifle started loosing it's throat after about 1200 rounds, so I did a barrel set back with a new chamber. Groups were only slightly better, but lost most fliers. Looking back, I think most work was a moote point, and maybe should have shot it another five hundred rounds. But it was also a learning experience just like the .223 Remington. It now shoots mid fours with a reworked factory barrel and a lot of elbow grease. The average guy will never want to invest that much time and effort into the cause. I'm stubborn!
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Old 12-15-2013, 01:56 AM
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Re: Remington 700 quality

I have had Remingtons, savages, and a sako. I have yet to see one last or work better than the other over the years.
Bought a savage 110 in .243. Nice gun shoots well, but stock wood fibers compressed and had the front action bolt coming through the receiver and keeping the bolt from closing. Good barrel, but have had action/bolt issues.
Remington 700 shot easily under 1 moa at first. Then the factory walnut stock warped, tried a plastic stock , accuracy never the same.
Currently at gunsmith getting new barrel, stock ,muzzle brake ,etc. will probably have total of $2500-$2600 total (including rifle purchase ) in this gun to shoot 1/2 moa. This is a 10-15 year old 700, cost me $800 new.
Remington 700 with laminated stock shoots 5/8 moa , no problems to date.
Sako , which cost a good bit more than the Remingtons and has a 1 moa guarantee, shot 3/4 moa on it's best day but more often than not struggles to get to the 1 moa group. Had work done to rifle and now have $3000 total in this rifle. Can now shoot 4 shot group that can be covered with a dime.
If you are looking for a rifle with custom rifle performance, get a custom rifle.
If you can't afford a custom and want to build over time so as to lessen the pain of an all at once purchase, get a remington. Sako parts cost too much. Have purchased extra magazine , scope mounts and rings. ( Can't just buy any old aftermarket mounts ) and had sticker shock on each product.
There are custom rifles on the market for under $4000. These days, you'll have that in a Remington build if you include the rifle purchase, so why bother?
If you want a good $100 to $300 yard rifle, pick something off the shelf you think looks nice and go shoot, however if choosing a wood stock, get a laminated stock. They hold up better and resist warping especially in a climate with weather extremes.
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