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Old 06-03-2013, 08:45 AM
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I read an article a year or two ago in the American Rifleman about sniper rifles of the Vietnam era. Land, Carlos Hathcock's superior at the time(I beleve) was quoted saying that Hathcock's M70 was a 2 MOA rifle with the issued ammo.
On a different note. About 6 or 7 years ago I bought a Commemerative , Marine Scout Sniper Rem700. It was a limited edition, parkerized, 700 with an oiled stock, stripper clip cut receiver, and continued serial # from the originals. I gave it a try at with 168SMK handloads and was pleasantly surprised that right out of the box it would keep five shots under an inch at 200 yards. I haven't shot it since. It looks great with a period 3x9 Redield mounted on it.
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Old 06-03-2013, 08:59 AM
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I read an article a year or two ago in the American Rifleman about sniper rifles of the Vietnam era. Land, Carlos Hathcock's superior at the time(I beleve) was quoted saying that Hathcock's M70 was a 2 MOA rifle with the issued ammo.
I agree. The service marksmanship unit clamped it in an accuracy cradle and shot a few groups with good lots of M72 30 caliber match ammo. The throat in it swallowed the erosion gauge and was well worn.

When I talked with GySgt Hathcock at the 1971 Interservice Rifle Matches, he told me his old Winchester sniper rifle's barrel had many rounds through it and would probably just barely hold the 20" V ring on the old military "C" 1000 yard target used then. But he said he liked the trigger on it and knew well the sight settings needed for all ranges up to 1000 or a bit more.
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Old 06-03-2013, 11:12 AM
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In March of 1967 the 3rd. Marines at Camp Carroll were just getting the 700 in to replace the 70. A lot of grumbling was heard for sure. I too like the 70 over the 700. Mine is as accurate as the ones the Snipers were using at that time. I have both the 700 and the 70 at this time but i shoot the 700 a lot more these days. Mine was made in 1957 and is set up with the target stock and a 10x Unertl. Original barrel too! Could not find an 8x anywhere at the time but not much difference. The trigger finally broke and rather than find parts i chose to replace with a Timney. The weakest part of the 70 is the trigger but this one was as fine as they come. Mine was a USMC rifle at one time because of the marking with the pencil grinder on the receiver (US Property) This is the way the MTU armorors marked the rifles. I believe it was used in comp.though. It is bedded like the Sniper Rifles were. Love it,just don't shoot it much anymore.
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my first set of orders would have placed me at the Camp Carrol area in December 1967. They ended up in a garbage can right beside a desk. Tobe exact 75% of the guys orders were tossed in there, and new ones cut. I ended up a little south of Chu Lai for about four or five months. Then pulled up stakes and never went back.
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I would never say Remington's are junk. They have a long history of quality over the years. Anytime you have competition in any industry, that requires the manufactures to either step up their game or be left behind. I think that's what you see in the firearm industry. Remington, Browning, Savage and all the others are pushing to be the best, and the competition is fierce. The good part of all of this is that the customer almost always wins in these situations. We see the end results and get to have fun shooting them.

As for your question about purchasing a Remington. The last three bolt guns have been Remington 700's. The VS in .308, SPS in .243 and BDL in 30-06.

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I like Remington's, Howas, Savages but except for accustocks (which I like), I have a closet full of Tupperware stocks. Generally the first thing I do is a trigger job, Bell and Carlson sporter or Tactical stock and break in the barrel. I like the laminate stock on my Ruger Gunsite Scout though.
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:25 PM
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I believe that is false. The NRA had come out with a statement confirming that Soros had no connection to the Remington. I think they are in the tank for the age old reason........crappy management. We had one of Remington's R&D guys at a shoot. He was very frustrated. He said that the company was very bureaucratic, and getting ideas, or improvements implemented was near impossible. In contrast, the Savage people attend our shoots on a regular basis, bring new designs to get input, donate rifles as prizes, and have given tours of their factory to the members of our rifle club. The CEO of Savage even showed up at one of the local clubs to participate in a shoot. The contrast between the two companies is stark. We are located within driving distance of both Remington, and Savage.
I discovered the same thing as you did about Soros not owning any interest in any firearms companies. I also found other "truth or false" sites proclaiming the same thing as what the NRA proclaimed.
I just read yesterday that ATK is in the process of becoming the new owner of Savage Arms. So far I haven't discovered anything negative about ATK. However I get increasingly uncomfortable when I consider one company could possibly end up owning nearly all of the firearms industry. A number of years ago, laws were passed to stop companies from having a monopoly like that, but it doesn't seem to have stopped them.
The biggest reason I'm uncomfortable with one two or even three companies owning all of the industry, is because for instance, if one company owns it all, I believe the government would have an easier time of halting production. I may be completely wrong, but the discomfort is still there.
I also believe Soros has enough money to buy anonymity, which could make it nearly impossible to know the truth as to whether that's true or not. I hope my fears are unfounded.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:11 PM
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I discovered the same thing as you did about Soros not owning any interest in any firearms companies. I also found other "truth or false" sites proclaiming the same thing as what the NRA proclaimed.
I just read yesterday that ATK is in the process of becoming the new owner of Savage Arms. So far I haven't discovered anything negative about ATK. However I get increasingly uncomfortable when I consider one company could possibly end up owning nearly all of the firearms industry. A number of years ago, laws were passed to stop companies from having a monopoly like that, but it doesn't seem to have stopped them.
The biggest reason I'm uncomfortable with one two or even three companies owning all of the industry, is because for instance, if one company owns it all, I believe the government would have an easier time of halting production. I may be completely wrong, but the discomfort is still there.
I also believe Soros has enough money to buy anonymity, which could make it nearly impossible to know the truth as to whether that's true or not. I hope my fears are unfounded.
I know little about George Soros, except that he was a Nazi SS trooper. He cannot deny it as there are photos of him in uniform. Now wether Mr. Soros owns a part of Remington is a moote point as it could well be a holding company he owns thru several other holding companies. I'll give him that benefit. Yet I also don't trust a copperhead either! I've said it more than once that unless Remington changes it's ways they are a dead issue. Some think that the demise of Mike Walker is the reason; I don't know. I honestly think it's the profit margin first and the product last. Or 1960's American industrial status quo. Ruger was the first to eat their lunch, and Savage has given them lessons at their own venue. Who's next?
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