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Remington 260...The new Sniper rifle?

 
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:23 PM
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Re: Remington 260...The new Sniper rifle?

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As far as the 260 goes, since it retains its energy better out past 700y, should it be considered a better "Elk" round out past that range than the 308?
Take a closer look at post #13.

Neither one of us should be shooting at elk at 700+ yards with either. However, if you had to the 200 AB sports a BC of nearly .100 more than the 140 AB with 60 more grains and a much higher SD. You will get more velocity out of the 260 at the muzzle. The 200 will surpass the 140 in every catergory except drop.
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Please just answer one very simple question. Why would anyone shooting long range load a low BC , low SD 168 gr offering in a 300 win???????

My answer to this is. The only reason is to make the 7 RM look good. There is no other reason.

Jeff.

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What are long VDL bullets and what are some examples of them? Why do they not fully stabilize till 300y?
VLD means Very Low Drag

There is a discussion of some computer simulations by Berger in this part of the forum concerning bullet with initial yaw.
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Re: Remington 260...The new Sniper rifle?

I have done a little research on the 260 becasue I was interested in a rifle build in that cartridge. The 260 Remington is probably at its best with the 130 grain Berger with a .595 BC and 2900 fps from a 26 or 28 inch barrel. For purely hunting purposes the the 130 grain scirrocco would also be a good performer with a .575 BC.

I would consider the 260 a great deer round but not an elk round.
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Re: Remington 260...The new Sniper rifle?

The 130g Scirroco will perform well on elk out to 400yrds. Like anything you must place the shot.

I witnessed that bullet break both shoulders at 375yrds on a large cow elk.

If you are just going to use this rifle for hunting, why not look at the .264 Win mag, or the 6.5-06, or the 6.5-284? This would just take it up a notch.

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Re: Remington 260...The new Sniper rifle?

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Thanks for that great reply. In the Army we always used the 175gr HPBT M118LR. This was "THE BEST" round for the 308 as far as the Army was concerned. You mentioned a 155gr bullet. Do you know what the BC was on that? I would like to run it through my ballistic program and see what that shows. Are there any bullets out there for the 308 that have a .6 0r higher BC?
The only way to get the B.C. up in the 30 cal round is with a 200 grain bullet. Way to heavy imo. Thats why the 260 shines over the 308. (260) 130grn berger .550 B.C. 2900+ fps or (308) 210grn 630 B.C. 2350 fps. Bullet wont perform under 1800fps. It wont mushroom. 1800 fps at 400yrds. The 260 130grn 1800fps at 800yrds. But the bullet will still expand at 1600fps witch this round still acheaves at 1000yrds. But barley. The 308 is still a good round. It has proven it self for years. You have to do your research on the ammo you tend to use. How fast does it have to travel to expand? Oh and the wind drift for these 2 rounds at 1000yrds is over 20". Wind speed 10mph. ( The 155grn Berger bullet . B.C. is .439. for the 308. )

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264 Win Mag. Now your talking!!! But my 260 Rem has never let me down!!! Not even on a 200lb hog at 725 yrds. 130 grn Berger 27" Med heavy SS Fluted Heart Barrel. 2933FPS. I shot him just behind the ear. He never moved. Will I consider taking an elk at 1000 yrds with my 260? Dont know yet. But 800yrds YES!!!! with out a dought. Would like to see how the 130 grn Burger bullet mushrooms at 800yrds first befor going to 1000yrds on an elk with my 260. I have a 7mm Rem mag that I would use 1st at that range for an animal that size. ( The 260 shows on paper that it has the ability to do so. )

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264 Win Mag. Now your talking!!! But my 260 Rem has never let me down!!! Not even on a 200lb hog at 725 yrds. 130 grn Berger 27" Med heavy SS Fluted Heart Barrel. 2933FPS. I shot him just behind the ear. He never moved. Will I consider taking an elk at 1000 yrds with my 260? Dont know yet. But 800yrds YES!!!! with out a dought. Would like to see how the 130 grn Burger bullet mushrooms at 800yrds first befor going to 1000yrds on an elk with my 260. I have a 7mm Rem mag that I would use 1st at that range for an animal that size. ( The 260 shows on paper that it has the ability to do so. )
hmmm.....elk at 800 with a 260 shooting 130grain bullets? really? the conventional wisdom says you need 1500lbs to cleanly kill an elk. Running the numbers on a 130VLD (bc .552) at 3100fps, it carries 1500lbs to 500 yards. That same round drops to 995lbs at 800 and 744 at 1k.
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