Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment > Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics


Reply

Recoil lug...?

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #8  
Old 11-30-2003, 07:51 AM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,757
Re: Recoil lug...?

MC

You "WILL" need a recoil lug if your going to conventional bedding, and a thicker one is advisable.

If your going to have a barrel block (either split or glue in) you then would not need a recoil lug. The block acts as the lug.

Later
DC
__________________
Darryl Cassel
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-30-2003, 07:54 AM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 328
Re: Recoil lug...?

MC.. I may be wrong but as I understand it the large flat rear of many custom actions serves the same purpose as a recoil lug.. I don't know which configuration you're getting but that may be why the question came up. Some folks insist on a traditional lug.. I've had several rifles that did not use recoil lugs but they were of the lighter recoiling variety and I don't know if a 6.5-.284 would qualify as that.. Good luck with your project.. d:^) JiNC
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-30-2003, 01:57 PM
LDO LDO is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: eagle,co
Posts: 251
Re: Recoil lug...?

i have a custom rem. in 6.5-284 #17 26" in a a4 what a shooter and had great succes with the 142 smk this year on deer and elk,as far as the lug goes-as was said a tubb,holland,badger will do just fine.i cant say i would build a rifle without one no matter what the configuration of the action was-my 2 -dave
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-30-2003, 04:29 PM
MC MC is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Alaska
Posts: 4
Re: Recoil lug...?

As I understood it he would both pillar bed it as well as use something like Devcon in certain areas...I don't think I'd want to glue the action in as I've heard some negative comments with regards to that.
I'll probably go with the Badger.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-30-2003, 06:23 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 2,539
Re: Recoil lug...?

Jake,
I had never heard that before. I'd be interested in what Bruce's thoughts on this really are. What kind of surface area did those actions have at the rear, Jake? Seems like an action might only offer 25% of the recoil surface that a lug does? Interesting tho.
__________________
Brent Moffitt
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-30-2003, 08:51 PM
Gold Member
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Urich, MO
Posts: 838
Re: Recoil lug...?

I suppose the back of an action could be used as a recoil surface but I foresee a few problems with this:
1. Surface area typically would be too small.
2. The tang would act like a wedge and could split the stock.
3. You would have to go to extremes to make sure it recoiled off that surface and not something else- like the action screws.

The biggest problem with a rear- recoil lug sufrace is the action would literally act like an accordian with every shot. Not good.
Take for example the old Remington actions with rear lugs on the bolt- after awhile the bolt was pretty much bent like a bananna.

A recoil surface in front takes all the pressure off the action, only a small amount is transfered through the action via the bolt lugs/ lug seat.

As far as integral recoil lugs (ie Winchesters) in larger calibers with heavy recoil an additional block was attached to the barrel about 4-5" in front of the action and inletted into the stock to act as an additional recoil surface.

The only time I have seen a lug added to an action that had an integral lug was on Sako actions with their "reversed" style lug (a part of the stock stick up into a groove in the bottom of the action) which is typically way to small and we add a Badger, Tubb etc.. type lug. A few recent posts discussed this problem.

Just of few of my observations on the subject.
__________________
Chris Matthews
www.longshotriflesllc.com
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-30-2003, 09:55 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 328
Re: Recoil lug...?

Hey Brent.. It may be pure BS.. I dunno for sure but a bud who regularly builds rifles says that's the story.. Take for what it's worth.. I got a Python action from Jerry Stiller one time to build a cannon and his attitude was something to the effect of "I'll put a recoil lug on it if it'll make ya feel better".. These actions are engineered a little different from the Remchester's.. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
.. As far as the real area available for support during recoil, I don't know but if you look at most recoil lugs after installation there ain't a heckova lotta metal left hangin' under there either(the shorter it is, the less leverage there is to work on it?).. If the action screws touch then somebody botched the setup from the git-go..
MC.. Referring to glueing in the action.. Ask the benchresters and I think you'll find that the overwhelming majority are glue-ins.. But that may not be the best option for your needs or the particular action shape you are using..
.. As far as the tang serving as a wedge.. I dunno 'bout that with these action designs.. And I'm extremely skeptical of any "accordian" like motion with this action.. Hehehe..

Boy, playing devil's advocate is a hoot.. d:^) JiNC

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads for: Recoil lug...?
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
recoil krake22 Long Range Hunting & Shooting 4 04-15-2010 03:50 PM
How much recoil does a 7mm am have pud Long Range Hunting & Shooting 4 03-15-2010 07:36 AM
338 recoil? 7mmrowland Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 4 10-23-2008 07:38 AM
Recoil on a 300 Win Mag Archeryelk Long Range Hunting & Shooting 28 01-30-2007 12:59 AM
RECOIL BIG DOG Rifles, Bullets, Barrels and Ballistics 9 10-29-2004 03:45 PM

Current Poll
Do You Think Slingshots Should Be Legalized For Hunting Brown Bear?
Yes - 47.10%
884 Votes
No - 52.90%
993 Votes
Total Votes: 1,877
You may not vote on this poll.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC