I am currently shooting a Rem 700P Which is alot like the sendero in wieght in 300RUM, and my cousin has the same rifle in 300 Win. With those heavier rifles recoil isn't much of a problem considering that my Rem 700BDL in 270 Win seems to recoil harder with my reloads. However I am still planning on a break and either a dead mule or a hydrolic recoil reducer, mainly to see the felt difference when at the bench for a couple of hours at least twice a month.
I haven't had any experience with the wsm, but a buddy of mine ordered one yesterday and in a couple of weeks I will.
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Thanks for the info. Overall gun weight Im guessing will be around 8 1/2 lbs with a scope. I think Im going to go with a 300 min wag. I would love to get it in a rem sendaro but I have one in a 25-06 I use for deer hunting. Awesome for long range shots if you have tme to set up. Not so great for packing in the rockies. Anyways thanks again for the info.
I strongly agree with Rev on this one. It matters a lot what powder is used. I've noticed that the faster burn rate powders, in the same rifle has a quicker recoil (read more hurtful) than the slower burn rate powders. That's just been my experience.
For example: In my .300 WM two charges are most accurate with the 200 grain MK bullet. When using 70 grains of RE-19, I feel the recoil more than when using my alternate load of 74 grains of IMR 7828. Both loads give me just over 2800 FPS, but the RE-19 load is just a bit more accurate.
However, I generally shoot more IMR 7828 due to the decreased recoil effect. The slower powder seems to push me not jab me.
In my experience, the 300 RUM in two like and comparable weapons (ie 2 Mod700 LSS's), kicks a hell of a lot more than the 300 WM does. While the 300 WSM IMHO is about like the 300 WM when using the same 180 grain bullets.
just finished building a LR 300 RUM this week,Sav.116 FSS,Bell and Carlson stock,Ken Farrell Steel G-Force Mount and rings with a 4.5x14 Mark 4 Leupold....See the pic of the Brake I had put on....It kicks like a pussycat..alot less than my heavy Brl. 7mag.....and shoots 1/2 in. groups with 2 different bullet weights @ 100 yds....I like it!!!
I have a 300 WSM model 70 Laredo stock, 26 inch Lothar Walther barrel, muzzle dia is 1 in and a break. The recoil pad fell off the stock and I still shoot it. I need to wear a bdu top because of the lack of cussioning and rather sharp edges on the stock but the recoil doesnt bother me. I shoot the 168 and 190 Berger's out of it and they are running around 3k for the 168 and 2800 or so for the 190's.
The rifle sports a Night Force NXS 8-32 so it has added some weight to it too. The action isnt bedded yet and I shoot sometimes with a bi-pod.
All in all its a very fun gun to shoot and very enjoyable at the range when shooting 50 rounds or so. I noticed no shoulder soreness either.
The 300 rum when punching heavier bullets at 3k and above youll get a whoopin on your shoulder. A break and limb saver recoil pad and youll be doing fine, maybe not 50 rounds but easily 20 to 30 before flinching and shoulder soreness set it.
I once shot a sporter weight plastic stocked rem 700 in 300 wby. 180 grain ballistic tips and just a tad under a hot load, 3 shots is all I cared to take I have never been slapped so hard by any other rifle as that one. I simply refuse to shoot it anymore and it has been sighted in for 3 years now on my original sight in (buddy had neck surgery and couldnt/didnt want to sight it in, what a buddy I am lol).
Now that everybody has added their impout on the recoil with differant bullet weights and powders I'll throw in my 2 cents about how much the stock shape aids in handeling the recoil.
generaly a synthetic stocked gun will kick a little harder than a "good" wood because its a little lighter and they don't have much cast off to them if any at all. The cast of a stock makes a huge differance in how your body takes the recoil. I have a 7.5lb Winchester Feather weight in 30-06 that is simply un-pleasant to shoot with 150gr bullet at 2900fps which is a mild load this stock is wood but it actualy has some ""cast ON"" to it , Standing off hand with a t-shirt on 5 rounds is just about all anybody wants of it.
Yet I have a 1961 German made Wby MarkV in 300Wby mag that tips the scales at just under 8lbs that is a sweethart to shoot , even with 180gr bullets launched at 3100+fps , but this stock is well made and has a good cast off and the comb has a good forward rake.You can tell that the gun is moving you more 6 than the Win 30-06 but it doesen't hurt nearly as bad.
I know what everbody is gonna say well the powders in those two cases are differan't well NO they arn't both guns are shooting H4831sc from the same lot !! So I'm not saying that the big Wby kicks less because is Physicly immposible the math just won't let it happen , but what I'm saying is that one gives you the recoil differantly.
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