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Old 01-11-2013, 10:07 AM
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??? More of them have been dropped with a 30-06 than any other caliber! And remember the question was IF a person had the choice of ONLY ONE.......
Your a very bad liar.... When he says the minimum for a kodiac is 338, the man spoke the truth. By law you must use at least a 225 or 250, i forget, grain bullet for kodiac brown bear. So no that isnt true, learn your **** before you speak.
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Your a very bad liar.... When he says the minimum for a kodiac is 338, the man spoke the truth. By law you must use at least a 225 or 250, i forget, grain bullet for kodiac brown bear. So no that isnt true, learn your **** before you speak.
May be the law NOW but it wasnt always. Ever seen a 220 gr slug in a 30-06..? Evidently not. So YOU go learn your **** before you jump someoens ass that knows more about the subject than you do!

And in addition..WHO said a 338 is the minimum caliber to be used? No one in this thread...so not only do you not know what your talking about...you make up LIES to TRY and prove your point! LIAR! Maybe you meant Hoyt said that...but upon clarification he said HIS MINIMUM caliber would be a 338....
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May be the law NOW but it wasnt always. Ever seen a 220 gr slug in a 30-06..? Evidently not. So YOU go learn your **** before you jump someoens ass that knows more about the subject than you do!
Oh no i have seen it before... My father is a 300 win mag nut... He has like 3 of them and used to have an 06 till he sold it because the 300 win mag was like jumping from a 22lr to a 220 swift... If you heard me correctly... i just said it is a law to have at the least a .338 diameter bullet in 225 or 250 grains no maatter how fast it is going, you have to have that at the least, it dont matter if its a 338-06 a-square, so no, YOU GO LEARN YOUR **** FOR PETES SAKE!!! and that law has been in place for quite a while now, so no a 30-06 does NOT have the most kodiac kills, sorry for raining on your parade. This aint little kid stuff, go do some research before you comment also.
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Oh no i have seen it before... My father is a 300 win mag nut... He has like 3 of them and used to have an 06 till he sold it because the 300 win mag was like jumping from a 22lr to a 220 swift... If you heard me correctly... i just said it is a law to have at the least a .338 diameter bullet in 225 or 250 grains no maatter how fast it is going, you have to have that at the least, it dont matter if its a 338-06 a-square, so no, YOU GO LEARN YOUR **** FOR PETES SAKE!!! and that law has been in place for quite a while now, so no a 30-06 does NOT have the most kodiac kills, sorry for raining on your parade. This aint little kid stuff, go do some research before you comment also.
I dont care if your daddy has a howitzer...and as I said it MAY BE law PRESENTLY but it WASNT ALWAYS. Now what part of that dont you understand?

I cant find "your law" on any printed page anywhere..but as I said it may well be truth in fact and NO..its not like jumping from a 22 rimfire to a 220 Swift and what started this all off is that FACT...that YOU CANT READ! Anything thta is up for personal choice might be debated even if it IS a 220 Swift. Doesnt make it RIGHT....doesnt make it LEGAL...and sure as hell doesnt make it good SENSE....but it can still be debated.

Now...go find...copy and paste here the section of Alaska's game rules where it states that POSITIVELY bear hunting requires a minimum of a 338 caliber weapon....or shut up.
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Sorry for a long post fellas..

Firearms and Ammunition

There are no simple answers when it comes to selecting a firearm and accompanying ammunition. How accurately you shoot is far more important than the type of rifle, cartridge, and bullet you choose. Alaska has some very large game animals, including 1600-pound mature bull moose and 1500-pound coastal brown bears. Moose or brown bear hit in the gut with a large caliber magnum rifle such as the popular .338 WinchesterŽ Magnum is wounded and just as likely to escape as if it had been hit with a small caliber rifle such as the .243 WinchesterŽ. The bore size, bullet weight, and velocity are of secondary importance to precise bullet placement in the vital heart-lung area.
It is important for the hunter to have a good knowledge of game anatomy, the ability to correctly judge distance, the discipline to take only shots that can be made with certainty, and the ability to shoot accurately from sitting, kneeling, and standing positions. You should be able to reliably place a bullet in a circle the size of the game's heart/lung zone from hunting positions at the distances you expect to be shooting. As long as the caliber is reasonable and a quality bullet is used, hunters kill game quickly and humanely with precise bullet placement.
Select a quality bullet

Winchester (left to right): Partition GoldŽ 7mm, .30-06, .300, .338, Fail SafeŽ .375

If you presently own a rifle chambered for the .270 Winchester, 7mm-08, .308 Winchester or .30-06 and can place all of your shots in an 8-inch circle out to 200 yards from a sitting or kneeling position you can be a successful Alaska hunter. To be as effective as possible, these cartridges should be loaded with premium quality bullets that are designed to pass completely through a large game animal, if hit in the heart-lung area.
Big Magnums Not Needed

The rifle you bring hunting should be one with which you are comfortable. Because of the presence of brown and grizzly bears, many hunters have been convinced that a .300, .338, .375, or .416 magnum is needed for personal protection and to take large Alaska game. This is simply not true. The recoil and noise of these large cartridges is unpleasant at best and plainly painful to many shooters. It is very difficult to concentrate on shot placement when your brain and body remembers the unpleasant recoil and noise which occurs when you pull the trigger on one of the big magnums.
The two most common complaints of professional Alaska guides are hunters who are not in good physical condition and hunters who cannot accurately shoot their rifles. Because these hunters do not practice enough they cannot shoot accurately enough. They miss their best chance at taking their dream animal or worse yet, they wound and lose an animal. Most experienced guides prefer that a hunter come to camp with a .270 or .30-06 rifle they can shoot well rather than a shiny new magnum that has been fired just enough to get sighted-in. If you are going to hunt brown bear on the Alaska Peninsula or Kodiak Island, a .30-06 loaded with 200- or 220-grain NoslerŽ or similar premium bullet will do the job with good shot placement. Only consider using a .300, .338 or larger magnum if you can shoot it as well as you can the .30-06.
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Re: A Quote from R.LEE ERMEY

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Your a very bad liar.... When he says the minimum for a kodiac is 338, the man spoke the truth. By law you must use at least a 225 or 250, i forget, grain bullet for kodiac brown bear. So no that isnt true, learn your **** before you speak.
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May be the law NOW but it wasnt always. Ever seen a 220 gr slug in a 30-06..? Evidently not. So YOU go learn your **** before you jump someoens ass that knows more about the subject than you do!

And in addition..WHO said a 338 is the minimum caliber to be used? No one in this thread...so not only do you not know what your talking about...you make up LIES to TRY and prove your point! LIAR! Maybe you meant Hoyt said that...but upon clarification he said HIS MINIMUM caliber would be a 338....
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Oh no i have seen it before... My father is a 300 win mag nut... He has like 3 of them and used to have an 06 till he sold it because the 300 win mag was like jumping from a 22lr to a 220 swift... If you heard me correctly... i just said it is a law to have at the least a .338 diameter bullet in 225 or 250 grains no maatter how fast it is going, you have to have that at the least, it dont matter if its a 338-06 a-square, so no, YOU GO LEARN YOUR **** FOR PETES SAKE!!! and that law has been in place for quite a while now, so no a 30-06 does NOT have the most kodiac kills, sorry for raining on your parade. This aint little kid stuff, go do some research before you comment also.
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I dont care if your daddy has a howitzer...and as I said it MAY BE law PRESENTLY but it WASNT ALWAYS. Now what part of that dont you understand?

I cant find "your law" on any printed page anywhere..but as I said it may well be truth in fact and NO..its not like jumping from a 22 rimfire to a 220 Swift and what started this all off is that FACT...that YOU CANT READ! Anything thta is up for personal choice might be debated even if it IS a 220 Swift. Doesnt make it RIGHT....doesnt make it LEGAL...and sure as hell doesnt make it good SENSE....but it can still be debated.

Now...go find...copy and paste here the section of Alaska's game rules where it states that POSITIVELY bear hunting requires a minimum of a 338 caliber weapon....or shut up.
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Its something else isnt it Joe.......
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