A question about custom actions.

[Murphy's Law]

Hi All

This is my first post although I have been lurking for a while. There is heaps of good info here for a LRH novice like me - thanks.

I've been hunting and shooting all of my life but only just recently realised the need for a long range weapon after a Tahr hunting trip to New Zealand. I took my little Blaser K95 single shot rifle and did considerable damage to it in the rough conditions.

So I have decided to have a specialist rifle built that will be reasonably light weight for mountain hunting, can be used as a walking stick and be capable of hitting and killing goats and deer at 600 yds.

I'm currently looking for an action and am considering either the Borden Timberline or the Surgeon. My gunsmith tells me that the Surgeon is quite a bit heavier than the Borden and because its tolerances are so tight may not be the best choice for a hunting rifle (dust, dirt etc in the action tending to interfere with bolt travel, smooth feeding etc).

I was hopeing someone here might be able to compare real life experiences with both actions to help me make up my mind.

Cheers.

M's L.

[300R]

Hey Mate,i have two surgeon actions and they will be a bit heavy for what you want,go to elk's hunting and fishing website they are in Albury, there is custom light weight built on a rem action in 280 ackley improved,might be just what your after built by a good aussie gunsmith too.

[Boss Hoss]

[BigSkyGP]

I would crawl home, to camp, or the truck, before I used my worst no good shot up rifle for a walking stick. Let alone a custom boom stick.

[Mikecr]

It doesn't take an aftermarket action to function after mis-treatment, nor to hit goats at 600yds.
Given that you care so less for your equipment, I assume you don't actually put any efforts into load development, reload, or practice at distance.
So your best solution IMO, is to buy used guns from forum classifieds. Look for what will perform with factory ammo, and after destroying it, just toss & buy another.
This will be cheaper and more reliable in the long run, than building custom guns with all unknown.

Basically, I'm describing what the 'Anti-Mikecr' would do....

[Boss Hoss]

Originally Posted by Mikecr

It doesn't take an aftermarket action to function after mis-treatment, nor to hit goats at 600yds.
Given that you care so less for your equipment, I assume you don't actually put any efforts into load development, reload, or practice at distance.
So your best solution IMO, is to buy used guns from forum classifieds. Look for what will perform with factory ammo, and after destroying it, just toss & buy another.
This will be cheaper and more reliable in the long run, than building custom guns with all unknown.

Basically, I'm describing what the 'Anti-Mikecr' would do....

Very Nice Response....

[BigSkyGP]

An AK-47 would be the closest to standing up to your use. It will shoot MOH at 300 meters (Minute of Hillside). Ammo's cheap, and just about overkill for goats. Best part: No Cleaning Required