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Old 01-17-2007, 02:18 PM
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Re: Pillar bed or glass bed?

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epoxie and glass bedding are different words for the same thing

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Actually, there is a lot of difference.
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:41 PM
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Re: Pillar bed or glass bed?

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pillars are instaled to give 100% metal to metal makeup
so torque on beding screws can remain constant.

All stock materials can be compressed so pillars are
installed.

bedding positions the action and contacts it up to
100% depending on the requirments and type of shooting
to be done.

Glueing the action does the same but is to extreme for
most .

All these things are done to make the weapon more
consistent under different conditions.

I like to pillar and bed the action and float the barrel

And by the way an old (very old) trick to remove a glue
or beded in action is to place the rifle in the freezer
for 24hrs and remove placing the rifle on your lap barrel
down use a rubber mallet to strike the barrel while holding
the stock just off your lap. The shock and the different
co efficient of expansion of the materials makes it break
loose easy. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

The type of beding is a personal choice .I prefer the
steel bed or accuglass gel for most jobs. But there are
other good brands out there.

Hope this helps
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Old 01-17-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: Pillar bed or glass bed?

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270

pillars are instaled to give 100% metal to metal makeup
so torque on beding screws can remain constant.

All stock materials can be compressed so pillars are
installed.

bedding positions the action and contacts it up to
100% depending on the requirments and type of shooting
to be done.

Glueing the action does the same but is to extreme for
most .

All these things are done to make the weapon more
consistent under different conditions.

I like to pillar and bed the action and float the barrel

And by the way an old (very old) trick to remove a glue
or beded in action is to place the rifle in the freezer
for 24hrs and remove placing the rifle on your lap barrel
down use a rubber mallet to strike the barrel while holding
the stock just off your lap. The shock and the different
co efficient of expansion of the materials makes it break
loose easy. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

The type of beding is a personal choice .I prefer the
steel bed or accuglass gel for most jobs. But there are
other good brands out there.

Hope this helps
J E CUSTOM

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Yup, sounds real familiar. All of mine that are not glued in, are pillar bedded with all voids filled with epoxy to get as much contact as possible with the barrel free-floated. I have been known to hang some heavy barrels (32" 1.250" straight tube w/o any taper) on my actions and they all work extremely well.

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Old 01-17-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: Pillar bed or glass bed?

Catshooter, not in my shop they aren't. Haven't used acra-glass or acra-gel for years. Brownells Steel Bed is my favorite. By the way when I first learned about "glass bedding" the old timers were using Fiberglass resin and a hardener. Hence the term "glass" bedding. But different people use different products and I'm sure that is why, "They don't only make Vanilla".
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: Pillar bed or glass bed?

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Catshooter, not in my shop they aren't. Haven't used acra-glass or acra-gel for years. Brownells Steel Bed is my favorite. By the way when I first learned about "glass bedding" the old timers were using Fiberglass resin and a hardener. Hence the term "glass" bedding. But different people use different products and I'm sure that is why, "They don't only make Vanilla".

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DocEd...

They are generic terms - I haven't used "accraglass" in twenty years - I also use Brownells "Steel bed" and sometimes Devcon titanium or steel.

But epoxie is generically called glass, and visa versa, even when it doesn't have fiber glass in it - arguing about samantics is silly.

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Old 01-18-2007, 06:21 AM
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Catshooter, I agree fully. Argument, for arquments sake, should be reserved for our political leaders. Good Shootin', DocEd.
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Old 01-21-2007, 11:52 AM
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Re: Pillar bed or glass bed?

So if one has a stock that has an aluminum bedding block (say an H-s Precision).....does one still drill the aluminum block and and put pillars as well as "glass, steel, JB weld" bedding?

I thought that the whole purpose of the aluminum bedding block was to be similar to pillars....so all you would do is to "glass...etc" bed? Correct?
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