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Unread 06-20-2007, 04:30 AM
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I would not try to shot any game with the Lapua bullets though , I have heard zero good results from them on game.

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EDIT: IIRC Goodgrouper tested the 250gr .338 Lapua sceners a while back at 900y in wet newspaper and had the same expreiance, lots of penetration but no expantion [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] .

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The 250 Scenar also shot a hole through GG"s AR-400 Steel gong the only bullet to ever do so...........
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Unread 06-20-2007, 09:42 AM
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Federal Gold Medal Match (FGMM) .308/175s are very popular for long range shooting and normally render decent results.

As posted above, it's largely a matter of what your rifle likes and Black Hills shoots well for a lot of folks too.

Often, 168s won't remain stabilized at extreme ranges from a .308, due to relatively low BC, mediocre initial velocity, low velocity retention coupled with higher air densities. At sea level (Quantico MCB) on average days, 168 SMKs *always* destabilze at 800 to 900 yards and I see a lot of sideways strikes. People shooting in lower air densities and with longer barrels can often see decent results to 1k.

I have two .308s, a 20" LTR and a 26" VS and both prefer the FGMM 175s over the Black Hills loading of the same bullet. I shoot both rifles beyond 1k regularly with decent results.

I've tried factory loaded 155 Scenars and they didn't shoot as well in my .308 rifles as the 175 SMKs. I haven't done a lot of load development with 155s in the .308, but I have a 3,150 fps, 3/4 moa load with them in my .30-06 Ackley that does very well at longer distances on targets.

FWIW, I shot a bedded deer broadside with the .30-06 AI and a 155 Scenar at a lasered 392 yards and hit him on the point of the right shoulder, broke that, broke the far shoulder and left a 1-1/2" exit. He was DRT and never got up, but I did hit a lot of bone.

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