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Old 01-15-2007, 11:30 AM
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Kirby, I'll second uncleB. A fast twist 222 shooting a 69gr match bullet, or 60 gr v-max, would be great varmit medicine.

20-24 grains of powder
A long neck for those long bullets
Proven accurate cartrige design
No recoil to speak of
Long barrel life
Low report

Only thing is this set-up would not meet your flat shooting requirement.

I will say after running some numbers a 6mm223 would be quite impressive for the task if you reach 3600 fps.
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Old 01-15-2007, 11:35 AM
 
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I was down that same road a year ago. After going over and going over everything I could find I ended up with a .223 Remington in a 700 LV. The main reason was cost savings. When I'm praire dog hunting I wanted something that would shoot very accuratly using ammo I didn't have to reload for. Sometimes I dont' have time to reload a couple thousand rounds for a 3 day shoot and the range you specified my rifle will do very well with factory ammo giving me more time to spend on my longer range rifles reloading. With Black Hills blue box it will shoot under .500 at 100 yds which was more than good enough for minute of PD at 400 yds and do it cheaply. Tuned up with a rifle like you can build it probably would do even better in the accuracy dept. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] Plus if you run out of ammo on a long shoot it isn't hard to find more if its needed without going home to reload more. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:06 PM
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Re: Opinions wanted......

Well, I know nothing about running 400-500 rounds down a barrel at varmints but I would vote for either the 222 or the 223 as being a good high volume round. About 20-30 years or so ago the 222 was believed to be very accurate.
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Old 01-15-2007, 12:32 PM
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Re: Opinions wanted......

I liked old bear's suggestion of the 6T/CU but with your "cold form" requirement, this is out the window. I have one in a 15" Contender and it is SUPER accurate...taken plenty of g-hogs to 350yds w/ 70gr NBT's.

However...the 6x45 would be a super cartridge. It is tough for me to believe that a 6mm 55gr pill will "out BC" a 55gr .224" bullet...though I have not really looked into this comparison. Have you run the numbers with a 70gr bullet? I think a little less velocity may be beneficial if launching a higher BC pill...as is typically the case.

I've used a Striker 22-250 w/ 50gr VM's reliably to 400yds on groundhogs over here in the east. This rig pumps out the same performance as a .223 Remington w/ about 26" of tube. This would be plenty of medicine for PD's to 400yds.

For your itch to build something a little different then the 6x45 (6-223) would be great. Besides, after tou get that reamer, I have a nice XP-100 that's looking to get spruced up a little!
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:36 PM
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Kirby, I was out prepping some brass in the shop, so I looked up the 6/223. Hodgdon list the 60gr bullet loads at the velocity range of 3100fps out of a 24 inch barrel. 3600 might be asking alot. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 01-15-2007, 04:52 PM
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Sounds like you are resurrecting the old Remington 224 with the 12 twist for your hankerin. Just so happens I have one, and guess what, it's got a $ on it like everything else I have. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I also have a couple of half growed up teenage daughters if you want to fastforward about 17 years to see what to look forward to. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Keep warm up there. Later Tim
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Old 01-15-2007, 05:12 PM
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